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Well, you know, I wanna say the mis-matched PSUs might be an issue. I also want to think about so many VGAs..the power...yeah, you need dual PSUs...but does the board like it?

Corsair PSUs...yuck. Not that I don't like Corsair....just those PSUs make me feel weird. I have the Seasonic version of the 860...couldn't even run Firestrike Extreme with two 780 Ti and CPU at stock. That means that probably 500 isn't enough for CPU and a single VGA.


See, for me, I'd be dropping to a single VGA, single PSU, single ram kit...and starting there. Getting a good OC, and then adding second GPU. Probably gonna need more voltage for second VGA, plus there's more heat from extra PCIe enabling...

I'd have to push it like that, play with settings, make it fail, then push higher...

You're filling all ram, all PCIe....that's a $15k build. That is going to need a killer CPU to clock well, and a whole bunch of time on set-up for OC.

Intel Tuning Plan RMA...is no questions asked, just send in chip, they send new one, takes about a week. But, you need to have had tuning plan active for 30 days, first. Normal RMA, same turn around, same basic routine, but if you mention OC...RMA denied (which means you're wasting your time, no problem with Tuning Plan, but it's different department and normal RMA cannot help you or transfer your case).

Not that's exactly how it is, but that perspective should make the approach easier. wink.gif

All that said.. what I consider stable, and what you consider stable...are probably very different. I am probably the biggest snob about this stability thing... and it's why although I know a lot, and could do competitive OC, I have no interest. I prefer hardcore stability than hardcore benching as I feel it's more of a challenge, and therefore, more rewarding. tongue.gif
Edited by cadaveca - 2/16/14 at 6:52pm
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Well, you know, I wanna say the mis-matched PSUs might be an issue. I also want to think about so many VGAs..the power...yeah, you need dual PSUs...but does the board like it?

Corsair PSUs...yuck. Not that I don't like Corsair....just those PSUs make me feel weird. I have the Seasonic version of the 860...couldn't even run Firestrike Extreme with two 780 Ti and CPU at stock. That means that probably 500 isn't enough for CPU and a single VGA.


See, for me, I'd be dropping to a single VGA, single PSU, single ram kit...and starting there. Getting a good OC, and then adding second GPU. Probably gonna need more voltage for second VGA, plus there's more heat from extra PCIe enabling...

I'd have to push it like that, play with settings, make it fail, then push higher...

You're filling all ram, all PCIe....that's a $15k build. That is going to need a killer CPU to clock well, and a whole bunch of time on set-up for OC.

Intel Tuning Plan RMA...is no questions asked, just send in chip, they send new one, takes about a week. But, you need to have had tuning plan active for 30 days, first. Normal RMA, same turn around, same basic routine, but if you mention OC...RMA denied (which means you're wasting your time, no problem with Tuning Plan, but it's different department and normal RMA cannot help you or transfer your case).

Not that's exactly how it is, but that perspective should make the approach easier. wink.gif

All that said.. what I consider stable, and what you consider stable...are probably very different. I am probably the biggest snob about this stability thing... and it's why although I know a lot, and could do competitive OC, I have no interest. I prefer hardcore stability than hardcore benching as I feel it's more of a challenge, and therefore, more rewarding. tongue.gif

I've no interest in benching though. As for the PSU's I"m not fully understanding what you mean. I'm using Add2Psu for the moment ( The 2nd was recently added to take ALL the GPU's away from the main PSU ) so when the first one comes on it starts the 2nd which turns on the GPU's , everything else is on the main which from the reports only pulls around 230 @ max for now. For the 1200 though I"m not sure but I just wanted the GPU's away from the system so I didn't bring anything down when pushing them for stable FPS in games.

It's gonna suck if its the chip honestly.but if I end up RMA'ing that I might as well RMA the asus board too since I can only get 16x8x8 due to 2 pins missing in the 3rd GPU slot coming out when I removed the GPU's last time.

Also forgot about the 30 days and keep forgetting to jump on that plan lol.
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everything else is on the main which from the reports only pulls around 230 @ max for now.

CPU + 75 watts per PCIe slot is gonna be slightly more than 230 W. Maybe CPU only on OC. + x79 chipset, the USB 3 controllers, the audio, the whatever, the thingabob, the fans, the coolering, blah blah blah. tongue.gif

Increasing CPU speed increase GPU power consumption, too. Add in OC, and another 100W per card is gonna push that 1200W pretty easy with 3 GPUs.

From my perspective, you're PSU-limited.


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Edited by cadaveca - 2/16/14 at 7:57pm
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With all ram slots populated, IMC will be strained to the max even with ES chip that already tested to 4000+ 4X4GB on LN2

4.5G @ 1.195V h2o on 166 strap with binned samsung, max IMC probably @ 2666 8X4GB with 2V+ high vdimm



With 4X4GB, this system can easily stable @ 3000+

Any 4930K/4960X that can do stable 4.5G @ <1.235V air/h2o is a keeper!
Edited by centvalny - 2/16/14 at 9:08pm
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It's gonna suck if its the chip honestly.but if I end up RMA'ing that I might as well RMA the asus board too since I can only get 16x8x8 due to 2 pins missing in the 3rd GPU slot coming out when I removed the GPU's last time.

that is enough for me to rma right there ! that would drive me nutz !
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CPU + 75 watts per PCIe slot is gonna be slightly more than 230 W. Maybe CPU only on OC. + x79 chipset, the USB 3 controllers, the audio, the whatever, the thingabob, the fans, the coolering, blah blah blah. tongue.gif

Increasing CPU speed increase GPU power consumption, too. Add in OC, and another 100W per card is gonna push that 1200W pretty easy with 3 GPUs.

From my perspective, you're PSU-limited.


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I'm still not following lol I have 1200W dedicated to JUST GPU

860W dedicated to everything else lol, so when the GPU's pull Watts they don't grab from the board PSU lol.

If I was PSU limited wouldn't I get shutdowns? I did when I tried to heavily OC my titans when everything was just on the 1200, I don't go as high now but everythings on separate so I should be good PSU wise I'd think.


Only 4x8gb sticks atm remember that too.


If 2060W total isn't enough for this board which I doubt I can even pull from the wall then I doubt anyone within the US could then do this.. and there are heavier rigs out there w/ 1600W PSU's only doing more than what I'd ever hope to accomplish sadly.


Gahh all I want is stability but something above 1333...
Edited by LunaP - 2/16/14 at 9:26pm
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i have 2500w in my system maybe you should too ! everyone needs 2500w !
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Ah I mean I can hit 4.5 @ 1.235 lowest I believe and keep it stable through most tests, just I bumped it to 1.25 for the RAM but vCore would also affect its ability to distribute voltage to the rest correct? I can bump it to 1.275 and see if that helps.

As for PSU's I have 2 atm , AX1200i for GPU's only, and AX860 for Motherboard/everything else.


If you think its the chip I could always try for the intel RMA, dunno how that works though if they ship one to you and you return the bad one or if you have to ship to them first before they determine?

Did you end up getting Add2PSU? Or are you just winging it and hoping nothing dies?

All this ram talk + seeing TOOSHORT running 5.3 on his 3970x makes me want to get back to tuning.
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why dont ppl just use a 12vcoil relay ? that is what my final builds will use

wire a molex 12v and ground to coil and power on and ground to common / normally open contacts !

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1311.R1.TR5.TRC1.A0.H0.X12vdc+re&_nkw=12vdc+relay&_sacat=0&_from=R40

radioshack sells them as well
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why dont ppl just use a 12vcoil relay ? that is what my final builds will use

wire a molex 12v and ground to coil and power on and ground to common / normally open contacts !

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1311.R1.TR5.TRC1.A0.H0.X12vdc+re&_nkw=12vdc+relay&_sacat=0&_from=R40

radioshack sells them as well

I'm pretty sure something similar is used on the ADD2PSU.

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