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Well I upgraded from E7200, and considering problems I heard about random restarts, I reinstalled the system. I wonder if NVidia heard about 4820K and if they didn't activate PCI-E 3.0 only for 6 core Ivy-E. Or it might be because of GTX 660. Well, it's Asus card, perhaps I should create a tech support question. (Result of my last question: "my RAM reads 37GB/s writes 45 GB/s what can I do with that?" was answered: "We doesn't support Linux." considering I didn't reinstalled GRUB and my tests were on W7 x64, it's bit crazy reply.) I think they need some entertainment.

Actually there were some users who complained about Ivy-E and lack of PCI-E 3.0 support...
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Well I upgraded from E7200, and considering problems I heard about random restarts, I reinstalled the system. I wonder if NVidia heard about 4820K and if they didn't activate PCI-E 3.0 only for 6 core Ivy-E. Or it might be because of GTX 660. Well, it's Asus card, perhaps I should create a tech support question. (Result of my last question: "my RAM reads 37GB/s writes 45 GB/s what can I do with that?" was answered: "We doesn't support Linux." considering I didn't reinstalled GRUB and my tests were on W7 x64, it's bit crazy reply.) I think they need some entertainment.

Actually there were some users who complained about Ivy-E and lack of PCI-E 3.0 support...
what are ur nem timings I had to adjust mine for apot on read/write

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75 A 3.2 GHz 163W prime
90 A 3.4 GHz 168 W prime
110 A 3.9 GHz 172-5 W prime might need test stability
I have this with my 4 core.
Basically prime and overclocking tends to stay under 200 W wall for the whole MB and CPU. (Phase at extreme adds another 10 W, but it should be unnecessary for 4 core at 3.9 or lower.)



LunaP I think you might try to overclock your CPU at regular LLC, just to get proper statistic data. Start at 3.9, then do 4.1, and 4.3. It should create some curve. For example my CPU should reach 4.5 GHz at 1.26428571429 V (LLC regular, <1.23 V LLC medium) If the curve would look like it should stay mostly linear at 4.6 GHz try higher strap like 1.25x 37. Also I found using 500 kHz voltage frequency worked better than the default 300 kHz.

I'll try this when I get home. Any downsides to altering the voltage frequency? Also cad can I get your input on the above?
Edited by LunaP - 3/5/14 at 2:21pm
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Is there any list of the necessary updates/etc that I should pay attention to on this board? I'm wondering what the quickest way of ensuring I have the most up to date/or best drivers is..?
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So I am sure this question has been asked to death but I am planning on picking up a Rampage IV Black Edition next week, I am a little torn on getting either a 4960X or a 4930K, from what I understand there is little to no benefit going for the 4960X but I just wanted to confirm that there is no binning process for those chips. I am planning on running my setup with 4x4GB sticks of 2400MHz CL9 ram and an H100i if that helps.
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After installing a fresh copy of Win7, my computer has been rock solid. Loving it dearly :-p

I was ready to set it on fire due to those random BSODs. With my new Chip, I might not upgrade to Haswell E. Unless of course we get jaw dropping performance increases.

My only problem is that I lost my magnetic RoG emblem. I used that a few times to release the gpus from the pci slot, is anyone selling theirs?
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After installing a fresh copy of Win7, my computer has been rock solid. Loving it dearly :-p

I was ready to set it on fire due to those random BSODs. With my new Chip, I might not upgrade to Haswell E. Unless of course we get jaw dropping performance increases.

My only problem is that I lost my magnetic RoG emblem. I used that a few times to release the gpus from the pci slot, is anyone selling theirs?

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The 0602 build should cure the shutdowns you are getting at the lower overclocks even on ES board I think.


If you have a clamp meter for the EPS 12V and it is seeing substantially more than 200W at 4.5GHz with 1.25Vcore under full CPU load, then something is amiss.
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UEFI 0602 beta for anyone that wants to test. Some changes to current sensing for OCP (leave on auto to test), and some 125 strap changes for SNB-E (still evaluating the latter). No other changes.

My personal media fire account link for download: https://www.mediafire.com/?7qw9wjnz88g570p


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Also cad can I get your input on the above?

He is basically re-iterating what I was mentioning to Raja.

I mean, that's part of why my approach to OC is a bit different than most...power consumption is a big part that I consider. The average limit where chips "wall" and need more voltage is typically around the same power draw. As Raja mentioned, 200W is pretty much that limit for IVB-E, while SNB-E seemed good until around 265 W or so. Given the reduction in transistor size by process design, Intel did pretty good, but I feel overall quality of the CPUs has suffered - but if you don't look at power consumption on a large scale considering things like this, that might not be readily apparent. It all depends on what your looking at. Some users simply OC for performance or benchmarks, I OC because I'm a silicon geek. tongue.gif

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Is there any list of the necessary updates/etc that I should pay attention to on this board? I'm wondering what the quickest way of ensuring I have the most up to date/or best drivers is..?

Install them off the disc, but Intel LAN has newer on Intel site.
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So I am sure this question has been asked to death but I am planning on picking up a Rampage IV Black Edition next week, I am a little torn on getting either a 4960X or a 4930K, from what I understand there is little to no benefit going for the 4960X but I just wanted to confirm that there is no binning process for those chips. I am planning on running my setup with 4x4GB sticks of 2400MHz CL9 ram and an H100i if that helps.

"K" should be fine. centvalny has had some really good "K" chips, I gotta say.

Plus, less cache enabled makes cooling easier, and maybe that's why the 4930K seems to do better. At the same time, I've only seen results from about 200 ES 4960X chips that myself and others have had.
Edited by cadaveca - 3/5/14 at 7:08pm
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i like the new bios, have not had time to play but i can now boot at 1.4 4.9 which i couldnt before, i am sure i can push 4.8 24/7 but i need to refamiliarize myself with this board, i know this chip used to do 1.4 5ghz, but it was on phasechange and he was pushing 1.53 5.3ghz but was really only used for validations !

in other news my th10 arrived today, i will be using it for this build tilli get my tx10-d ! ill post pics sometime but i was sick and i didnt feel like picking it up from my main shop ( work )
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He is basically re-iterating what I was mentioning to Raja.

I mean, that's part of why my approach to OC is a bit different than most...power consumption is a big part that I consider. The average limit where chips "wall" and need more voltage is typically around the same power draw. As Raja mentioned, 200W is pretty much that limit for IVB-E, while SNB-E seemed good until around 265 W or so. Given the reduction in transistor size by process design, Intel did pretty good, but I feel overall quality of the CPUs has suffered - but if you don't look at power consumption on a large scale considering things like this, that might not be readily apparent. It all depends on what your looking at. Some users simply OC for performance or benchmarks, I OC because I'm a silicon geek. tongue.gif
Install them off the disc, but Intel LAN has newer on Intel site.
"K" should be fine. centvalny has had some really good "K" chips, I gotta say.

Plus, less cache enabled makes cooling easier, and maybe that's why the 4930K seems to do better. At the same time, I've only seen results from about 200 ES 4960X chips that myself and others have had.

Thanks for the input, I figured it was either go for the 4960X and a 1 TB WD Black for game storage or get the 4930K and a 1 TB Samsung EVO SSD, and since I am currently using a 480GB Intel SSD for game storage I didn't want to downgrade.
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I am curious, in all of the research I have ever done, I have never found anywhere that any RAM speed above ~1333MHz is of any benefit in ANY situation, ever. So why do so many people insist on spending so much on faster RAM when a faster (insert any other component here) would be of infinitely more benefit...?

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Anybody else seeing this trend? I understand that a person might not have a need for 756GB of RAM, but to say that speed is more important than capacity, is their reason for spending twice as much on the same capacity seems, in my research, to be a blatant misrepresentation of facts...
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Logitech G710+ OCZ (Now FirePower) Fatal1ty 1KW CaseLabs Magnum STH10 Logitech G502 Proteus Core 
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SteelSeries 9HD Asus SupremeFX Onboard Harman Kardon AVR2650 Polk Audio 45B Front Speakers 
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Polk Audio 15C Center Speaker Logitech G27 Racing Wheel XBox 360 Wireless Controller Saitek ST290 Pro 
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Intel Core i5-3570 ASRock Z77 Fatal1ty Professional-M Intel HD4000 16GB Corsair Vengeance 2x8GB 1600mHz 
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120GB Kingston HyperX SSD 3TB Seagate 7,200RPM HDD 3TB HGST DeskStar Cooler Master GeminII M4 
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Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Vizio E420-B1 42" LED-LCD HDTV Logitech K830 Silverstone 500W 
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nMediaPC HTPC 5000S Logitech G602  Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D Fatal1ty Champion Harman Kardon AVR2650 
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Polk Audio 45B Polk Audio 15C CyberPower 1500PFCLCD Pure SineWave Battery Bac... 
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