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Talking about Ram i did some tweaking of my own here, and managed to OC it from 2133 to 2400 stable up to a 4.8 Mhz OC on my CPU!

Here is my results i hope it can helps others with a few pointers which way to go, this was with G.SKILL F3-17000CL9Q-16GBZH.

The Chips on these are double sided and HYNIX!!



The one on the left was when i first started, the one next is where i have finished so far, and then the Timings plus Sub Timings as well.




Regards,

AJ.
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You can check any of my memory review to see that at most in 3D, you get about 10% in FPS at only the best of times going from 1333 to 2400 MHz, and that's really only in the tests I picked because they show gains...many things do not.

However, when you are pushing multiple VGAs, and things like microstutter occur, the perceivable difference can be much greater...if that 2-5% means your frame rates go from under 60 FPS, to over 60 FPS, with a 60 Hz monitor.


FOr the longest time, most gamers would OC trying to reach that 60 FPS, since the hardware really wasn't that capable compared to what the software needed. Today, that's not the same...hardware VASTLY exceeds software.... and the software is about 5 years behind the hardware.

It seems that the general consensus is in line with what I have found myself. Personally, I can not justify spending extra on something that will not show me gains, that being said, I understand the people that do. As well, I am sure that most of you that are able to spend $500 on a declining platform have the funds to spend on the best other hardware as well, whereas, being on disability prevents me from getting the best hardware there is. I feel that I have done fairly with what I have though, 2x670ftw cards in SLI, 32GB of RAM, R4BE, 4820K (interim CPU), 2X27" IPS panels, Logitech G25/710+, Harman Kardon AVR 2650, 2x250GB Samsung 840 Evo's in RAID0, R.A.T. 7, along with other goodies, and a good server, plus around 25TB of storage, I really can't complain...

Thank you to everyone that kept this discussion civil, and didn't go ape**** whiny pants because of a disagreement. :-)
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Talking about Ram i did some tweaking of my own here, and managed to OC it from 2133 to 2400 stable up to a 4.8 Mhz OC on my CPU!

Here is my results i hope it can helps others with a few pointers which way to go, this was with G.SKILL F3-17000CL9Q-16GBZH.

The Chips on these are double sided and HYNIX!!



The one on the left was when i first started, the one next is where i have finished so far, and then the Timings plus Sub Timings as well.




Regards,

AJ.

That's the ram I got for my system. 2133 so far stable to 4.8 @ 1.405v. Temps are mid to high 60s at full load AIDA64. I have got 4.9 to boot @ 1.490v. Still testing lower voltage to find lowest and testing stability accordingly. This is on my 4820k.
I've been preaching this ram since I got it! XMP no problems. Period thumb.gif
Edited by yttocstfarc - 3/6/14 at 8:54am
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It seems that the general consensus is in line with what I have found myself. Personally, I can not justify spending extra on something that will not show me gains, that being said, I understand the people that do. As well, I am sure that most of you that are able to spend $500 on a declining platform have the funds to spend on the best other hardware as well, whereas, being on disability prevents me from getting the best hardware there is. I feel that I have done fairly with what I have though, 2x670ftw cards in SLI, 32GB of RAM, R4BE, 4820K (interim CPU), 2X27" IPS panels, Logitech G25/710+, Harman Kardon AVR 2650, 2x250GB Samsung 840 Evo's in RAID0, R.A.T. 7, along with other goodies, and a good server, plus around 25TB of storage, I really can't complain...

Thank you to everyone that kept this discussion civil, and didn't go ape**** whiny pants because of a disagreement. :-)

Once you hit the top-end hardware, re-sale value is usually pretty high, meaning that for a small re-investment, you can keep your system current for very little cost, if you play the market well. Before I was doing reviews, that's what I did to fund my LN2 OC adventures for many years. This current rig I have started with a 3960X, 16 GB of 2133 MHz ram, a P9X79 Deluxe, and triple HD6950s. I sold the 6950's to miners, got 7950's, the moved up to 7970s, and also tried dual GTX670s for a little bit. MSI has been very good to me, providing me with some great VGAs to use in my test systems, which allowed me to save the cash for this GTX780 Ti SLi purchase. It basically took me a year of doing reviews to afford them. Corsair and G.Skill keep me outfitted with ram for board testing, while the other brands give me review samples.

And yeah, the guys and gals here are pretty decent folk.


So if relating my experience playing with this hardware helps... it's the least I can do. I personally feel pretty fortunate that companies like ASUS send me hardware, and often early like the ES board I have now, so when stuff like that happens, I do my best to return the favor in forums, since I MSUT remain impartial in reviews. I don't pull any punches in my reviews... I state in my memory reviews that the tests I use were specifically chosen because they show differences, and not all apps will. And when ASUS or MSI or anyone else does something that I don't approve of (like boost Turbo profiling), I point that out, too.

I think my overall attitude here is common to pretty much all the folks posting here. Everyone just appreciates the hardware for what it is, and there is very little fanboys anymore just in general.
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It seems that the general consensus is in line with what I have found myself. Personally, I can not justify spending extra on something that will not show me gains, that being said, I understand the people that do. As well, I am sure that most of you that are able to spend $500 on a declining platform have the funds to spend on the best other hardware as well, whereas, being on disability prevents me from getting the best hardware there is. I feel that I have done fairly with what I have though, 2x670ftw cards in SLI, 32GB of RAM, R4BE, 4820K (interim CPU), 2X27" IPS panels, Logitech G25/710+, Harman Kardon AVR 2650, 2x250GB Samsung 840 Evo's in RAID0, R.A.T. 7, along with other goodies, and a good server, plus around 25TB of storage, I really can't complain...

Thank you to everyone that kept this discussion civil, and didn't go ape**** whiny pants because of a disagreement. :-)

We often find logical reason to justify an actual emotional decision, we love having the best. Need it? not really. just really really want it. biggrin.gif
    
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What i did was get a Rock solid OC @ 4.2 Mhz once i had that, then i started to Overclock the RAM and TIMINGS by hand!!

It can take a couple of days of tweaking but, once you have your timings set up you can save to the Bios Profiles and use that for all your CPU overclocks as well.

If your looking to give this a try just let me know!!

AJ.
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UEFI 0602 beta for anyone that wants to test. Some changes to current sensing for OCP (leave on auto to test), and some 125 strap changes for SNB-E (still evaluating the latter). No other changes.

My personal media fire account link for download: https://www.mediafire.com/?7qw9wjnz88g570p


-Raja

Hi Raja. This BOIS will not flash from flashing tool built into BIOS for me, says "The File is not a UEFI BIOS".

Thoughts?
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Hi Raja. This BOIS will not flash from flashing tool built into BIOS for me, says "The File is not a UEFI BIOS".

Thoughts?

How are you trying to flash it? I've had no problems with it. Put it on a usb stick and flashed through UEFI.
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How are you trying to flash it? I've had no problems with it. Put it on a usb stick and flashed through UEFI.

Nope, didn't work.


AI Suite did.


So, it didn't fix my issues with booting at actual default settings. Board fails to post during PCH initialization.(Q-LED code 96)


MEI and LAN failing to work on cold boot now makes sense. Also might explain the issues I had with 3960X and PCIe slot not working, and why I got a second board too, perhaps. Too bad I donated that board to a benching team.


Guess it's time to leave the clubhouse...no RMA on ES = I'll be using a different board. Have fun guys! wink.gif
post #6300 of 14769
I flashed the new bios in the bios and no problems for me, was going to put it on bios 2 but it appears i don't have a bios on there which is odd, hope the rog connect way works.
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