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Hey guys I have a GTX 780 installed, are any of you guys running a dedicated card for physx? I have that 770 sitting around. Thinking of installing it thoughts?
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Originally Posted by cadaveca View Post

I don't agree. At stock, new board will still shut down @ stock, listing PSU instability as cause of shutdown on POST.


But OC, or adjust current limits, it's fine.

I see board defaults to 140% under auto, too. Perhaps it's that setting screwing with me?


Honestlyy, Raja, I want to run normal stock. OC is great with this board/BIOS, but stock is not stable at all, and it's all about VRM settings under auto rules. Manually setting to "stock" values makes it even worse.

No problems at all on my end.

There are only two VRM settings related to OCP shutdowns, one is CPU Current Capability and the other is the Current Inrush setting. Try enabling the latter while leaving CPU Current Capability on Auto. Clear CMOS first.

Your issue actually sounds like something else though - possibly Super IO tripping due to irregular readings from PSU rails from the way you've worded things in your post above (might be Anti Surge Support tripping for some reason). This can happen erroneously if the Super IO has a fault or if something is messing up polling. In some cases the PSU rails really are outside spec. OCP shutdown does not give an error warning but Anti Surge Shutdown does. This stuff obviously has nothing to do with the OCP stuff the 0602 build was patched for.

You are the first person to report this - wonder if once again it's your "strange" CPUs that pull more current than anyone else's to blame tongue.gif

-Raja
Edited by Raja@ASUS - 3/15/14 at 3:04pm
post #6543 of 14771
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Originally Posted by Ajay57 View Post

As you can clearly see there is a lot of unanswered questions regarding this motherboard and its settings!!

Sorry Raja to ask you so many as i understand your busy with projects to do, but we all just wish to run this motherboard to its best ability.

In a relatively safe manner whether overclocking to its Max or for everyday use, as for my questions to you i was just checking my own ideas here.


Respectfully,

AJ.


I'd leave most things on Auto unless going for Ln2 type clocking personally. A lot of the parameters in the UEFI are designed for cold CPUs, they dont do much if anything for air clocking at all (even if one is a HWbot benching fanatic). Honestly, I've given away so much on DRAM in the various guides I've written, you guys should be teaching others at this stage. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS View Post

I'd leave most things on Auto unless going for Ln2 type clocking personally. A lot of the parameters in the UEFI are designed for cold CPUs, they dont do much if anything for air clocking at all (even if one is a HWbot benching fanatic). Honestly, I've given away so much on DRAM in the various guides I've written, you guys should be teaching others at this stage. smile.gif

Could you please re-post your tutorial on DRAM timing setting?.
post #6545 of 14771
Check the R4E guide in my sig for most of the info you need to learn about DRAM - read that through a few times (Google whatever term you don't understand - tho you should not need to). Most of the relationships and what timings do is in there. After reading that you can just tune your system according to what your parts are capable of and Google will throw up any deeper stuff if you need it.



Some other general links of interest about DRAM:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3851/everything-you-always-wanted-to-know-about-sdram-memory-but-were-afraid-to-ask

http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?27580-Memory-Timings-on-modern-ram.&country=&status=
Edited by Raja@ASUS - 3/15/14 at 3:46pm
post #6546 of 14771
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Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS View Post

I think some people are confused about what OCP is.

Think of OCP like a re-settable fuse. If you use a bigger fuse it will simply pass more current before it trips. Under normal operation, the current is not forced into the CPU; the CPU draws what it needs. For instance, if OCP is set to a value that shuts off at 120amps, but the CPU needs 140 amps, the VRM will shutdown as soon as the current draw exceeds 120 amps for more than a few micro-seconds. The higher you set the OCP the more current the VRM can supply the CPU if the CPU needs it.


So why have OCP at all? OCP is in place to prevent the VRM from supplying all of its current in a fault event. Just as fuses break a circuit. There are instances where one could set a threshold to prevent "more" damage. It won't stop the CPU from dying if something goes short in the die, but it may stop the board traces or related VRM components from burning up due to an open load.

Red at 140% is actually default on Auto BTW.

-Raja

140% cool. thanks - I think that's plenty for me ! smile.gif
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post #6547 of 14771
Is there a preferred blue screen viewer program you guys use? since I updated to 602 bios I'm getting blue screens while playing Black Flag. That game has been rock solid since I built the computer.
post #6548 of 14771
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Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS View Post

No problems at all on my end.

There are only two VRM settings related to OCP shutdowns, one is CPU Current Capability and the other is the Current Inrush setting. Try enabling the latter while leaving CPU Current Capability on Auto. Clear CMOS first.

Your issue actually sounds like something else though - possibly Super IO tripping due to irregular readings from PSU rails from the way you've worded things in your post above (might be Anti Surge Support tripping for some reason). This can happen erroneously if the Super IO has a fault or if something is messing up polling. In some cases the PSU rails really are outside spec. OCP shutdown does not give an error warning but Anti Surge Shutdown does. This stuff obviously has nothing to do with the OCP stuff the 0602 build was patched for.

You are the first person to report this - wonder if once again it's your "strange" CPUs that pull more current than anyone else's to blame tongue.gif

-Raja

Maybe. When I OC, I don't use Turbo multis, so the current overdraw only seems to happen under turbo mode.

Thanks for the awesome answer. thumb.gif I'll investigate more.
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Originally Posted by yttocstfarc View Post

Is there a preferred blue screen viewer program you guys use? since I updated to 602 bios I'm getting blue screens while playing Black Flag. That game has been rock solid since I built the computer.

Yeah, use this:

bluescreenview_setup.zip 120k .zip file
    
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Yeah, use this:

bluescreenview_setup.zip 120k .zip file

Perfect! Thanks! Anything I should know about it? +Rep
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