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Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS View Post

Do this,



1) Go back to stock, enable XMP.

2) Set CPU Current capability to 180%. See if that changes anything. If that stops the shutdowns, then reduce the OCP in 10% steps towards 140% and note the point at which the board starts to shutdown again.

3) After testing number 2 above set CPU Current Capability to 140% manually. Also set CPU Curretn Inrush to enabled. See what happens.

4) Report back.


At overclock all that happens is the auto rules scale the OCP settings. I want to see if we need to offset a little more at stock.

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Sorry a busy day but I did some testing tonight and yeah I think it's related to the CPU Current Capability like you said. First I verified that the system shut down again under stress. Then I set the CPU Current Capability to 180 % and did two rounds of 40-minute heavy stress testing with a managed shutdown in between. No issues at all after touching Current Capability.

I'll look into finding the spot when the issue starts occurring but cannot promise anything for now due to work. If I manage to do this at some point I'll report back as it probably will benefit other users too... smile.gif

Ok found some time and went all the way to 140 % when the shutdowns started happening. Then I enabled Inrush Inertia and no shutdowns anymore at 140 %. But somehow after that I had many, many issues that the board would not POST at all. I finally had to reflash the whole BIOS. Maybe it got corrupted with the shutdowns?
post #6612 of 14761
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Originally Posted by nickolp View Post

I'm running 4.7ghz @ 1.36v with LLC at high 24/7 with all energy savings enabled. 4.8 is dooable at around 1.42v and this is where my wall starts frown.gif

That is pretty good for a 4930k.
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post #6613 of 14761
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They are pretty equal, but with the added BCLK and memory ability, when you get a great chip, IVB-E is better.

Haswell itself is still faster for most users, if you do not take advantage of the cores, due to faster cache (roughly 200GB/s difference between chips).

4.6 GHz @ 1.3V is OK, but not great for IVB. Some chips will do 5 GHz @ that voltage.

Haswell, 4.6 GHz @ 1.3 V is GREAT.


So you can see, IVB-E is somewhere beyond that...4.6 GHz @ 1.4V is GREAT. I had been binning for good chips using 1.35V for 4.7 GHz, and some will do better than that...I can run 4.7 GHz, but heavy loading is too much for my cooling. GIven that these chips are nearly twice as large physically compared to IVB, I think the lower clock is fine..is only a couple 100 MHz, anyway.

Well cooling isn't really an issue at 1.4V but I doubt I could go much higher without breaking 90C so that is my cut off for voltage, I also made the mistake of buying an H100i before realizing that Corsair Link has issues running on Win 8.1 and from the loooks of it Corsair isn't fixing it any time soon, so I am returning that and getting an H105, I might return this chip at the same time.
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post #6614 of 14761
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Well cooling isn't really an issue at 1.4V but I doubt I could go much higher without breaking 90C so that is my cut off for voltage, I also made the mistake of buying an H100i before realizing that Corsair Link has issues running on Win 8.1 and from the loooks of it Corsair isn't fixing it any time soon, so I am returning that and getting an H105, I might return this chip at the same time.
honestly I went through a few chips before settling for 4.7 most do 4.5. The corsair link when I had a h100i on a 3930k i found to be useful in some ways but I ended up just plugging my fans into the cpu headers of the motherboard and have my fan profile adjust them I only used the link software for changing the led color. Other then that on wins 7 it would crash or cause issues at boot but again that was almost a year ago. The h100i does a pretty good job at what it does and even with a higher clocking chip at that same voltage your going to have slightly more heat. If temps are a concern I don't know any aio that are not going to give roughly the same cooling. Your next step would be maybe a custom cpu loop and add in your gpu later. The cost for a basic setup for a cpu won't run you to much more for barb fittings etc buying new but if you keep a look out in the for sale thread you woh of build you a nice loop with compressions etc pretty cheap also. That's my 2 cents though but it sounds to me like your in the same boat I was in a year ago and want performance. Also your chip may do 4.6 at your voltage you have now these scale with cold so the cooler you can keep the chip the more you can oc it at same voltage.
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post #6615 of 14761
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honestly I went through a few chips before settling for 4.7 most do 4.5. The corsair link when I had a h100i on a 3930k i found to be useful in some ways but I ended up just plugging my fans into the cpu headers of the motherboard and have my fan profile adjust them I only used the link software for changing the led color. Other then that on wins 7 it would crash or cause issues at boot but again that was almost a year ago. The h100i does a pretty good job at what it does and even with a higher clocking chip at that same voltage your going to have slightly more heat. If temps are a concern I don't know any aio that are not going to give roughly the same cooling. Your next step would be maybe a custom cpu loop and add in your gpu later. The cost for a basic setup for a cpu won't run you to much more for barb fittings etc buying new but if you keep a look out in the for sale thread you woh of build you a nice loop with compressions etc pretty cheap also. That's my 2 cents though but it sounds to me like your in the same boat I was in a year ago and want performance. Also your chip may do 4.6 at your voltage you have now these scale with cold so the cooler you can keep the chip the more you can oc it at same voltage.

Ya money isn't really an issue or anything it's more just a lack of interest in custom loops since I swap parts every couple of months and don't want to rip apart a loop, and I am a big fan of the Corsair Link software but with it's current state in 8.1 I am going to avoid it for now, maybe if another update comes along or they release an H105i I will consider trying it again but the last beta update was in December so I am doubtful that they are continuing support, especially since I am pretty sure they discontinued the stand alone Corsair link units. What do you think the chances are that I will end up with a better chip if I return this one?
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post #6616 of 14761
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Ya money isn't really an issue or anything it's more just a lack of interest in custom loops since I swap parts every couple of months and don't want to rip apart a loop, and I am a big fan of the Corsair Link software but with it's current state in 8.1 I am going to avoid it for now, maybe if another update comes along or they release an H105i I will consider trying it again but the last beta update was in December so I am doubtful that they are continuing support, especially since I am pretty sure they discontinued the stand alone Corsair link units. What do you think the chances are that I will end up with a better chip if I return this one?

unplug the cooler's USB plug.

Uninstall all the Link software.

install software after reboot, then shut down and connect cooler.

Should work fine..worked for me with most recent version, anyway.

Software doesn't work right when firmware doesn't match, and firmware update is rather poopy without most recent version. (I am using 2.5.5146)

BTW, H100i is far from high-end cooling. 90c @ 1.4V with h100i is actually pretty decent.
Edited by cadaveca - 3/18/14 at 3:06pm
post #6617 of 14761
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Originally Posted by cadaveca View Post

unplug the cooler.

Uninstall all the Link software.

install software after reboot, then shut down and connect cooler.

Should work fine..worked for me with most recent version, anyway.

Software doesn't work right when firmware doesn't match, and firmware update is rather poopy without most recent version. (I am using 2.5.5146)

BTW, H100i is far from high-end cooling. 90c @ 1.4V with h100i is actually pretty decent.

Ya I have already tried re installing and disconnecting it a couple times, running the newest firmware and Software, It work maybe 1-10 times that I boot it up, the rest of the time it won't display any connected devices besides the fans that get stuck at the same speed as when it booted. It also resets the LED colour from red to pink on boot.
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post #6618 of 14761
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That is pretty good for a 4930k.

Yeah a lot better than my first, which required 1.42v for 4.5ghz, this got returned under the tuning plan
post #6619 of 14761
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Originally Posted by CyBorg807 View Post

Ya I have already tried re installing and disconnecting it a couple times, running the newest firmware and Software, It work maybe 1-10 times that I boot it up, the rest of the time it won't display any connected devices besides the fans that get stuck at the same speed as when it booted. It also resets the LED colour from red to pink on boot.

I had that problem as well. Make sure you get rid of old profiles, too, that might be the problem.

I also RMA'd my cooler, come to think of it, and when I installed the software it just all worked fine, updated firmware and all.
post #6620 of 14761
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Originally Posted by cadaveca View Post

I had that problem as well. Make sure you get rid of old profiles, too, that might be the problem.

I also RMA'd my cooler, come to think of it, and when I installed the software it just all worked fine, updated firmware and all.

I guess I am pretty lucky, Mine work when I had the H80i installed and it is still working, I can adjust my PSU fan rpm and I see all other temps and even gpu fan and temp.
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