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Originally Posted by LaBestiaHumana View Post

No integrity violations.

Enabled XMP and ran p95 for 1 hour. After about 20 mins it so one of the cores dropped from 100% usage- to exactly 50% usage. Not sure what that means.

so at least one worker quit (checksum did not match). Set it up like this.


And under Advanced menu, make sure Error Checking and Round off are enabled.

Two ways to go forward:

Why enable XMP? Set your bios manually. Especially the XMP - but if you want to use XMP, verify that the SPD is correctly read by the bios. (second to last bios page)
1) assuming teh error was cpu based, up the vcore (or vsa) a notch, or lower the multiplier one notch... eg, start tuning the cpu OC.
2) memory based: make sure you set mem timings to SPD (manually), and voltage to 1.65V (assumption on my part). Mode to Mode 3, Latency to Auto or Nearer. Scroll down to the 3rd timings, set tRRDR to 2 (probably at 0 if this is on auto) see if this is stable.

Edit: I see you have the same exact ram as i do. try setting it to 2133, 8-10-10-28-128-1T, 1.65V. tRDRR = auto. mode 3, latency to auto. at 4.5-4.9 this should be stable (only range i tested).
for the cpu:Try something simple like this
Edited by Jpmboy - 3/21/14 at 5:50am
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I was having problems (random reboots) with 2400 Mhz memory as well earlier, sadly nobody replied *looking with reproach* wink.gif

I don't know what exactly brought me stability, but I changed following parameters all at once and it seems to be working well two days since, no matter what I throw at it:
X.M.P.
Rampage Tweak - Mode 3
Latency Boundary - Nearer
CPU Current Capability - 160%
VCCSA Current Capability - 130%
DRAM-AB/CD Current Capability - 130%
VCSSA and VTT both at 1.1 V

Hope it helps someone.

Also I would like to bump my original questions I am still curious about
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2. In Auto mode board sets VTT to ~1.25 Volts, while VCSSA to ~1.16. Also X.M.P. profile says 10-12-12-31-2N-1.65-1.20, is this second voltage VTT?
3. Memory write performance is quite lower than read performance - 45 vs 60. Is it fixable?

And some question related to general functionality.
a) I am not entirely sure how offset mode is diffirent from manual CPU voltage control. Any pros\cons? What does +\- 0.000x relates to. Please point me to any guide.
b) What advantages-disadvantages of setting BCLK to 125.
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post #6693 of 14758
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I was having problems (random reboots) with 2400 Mhz memory as well earlier, sadly nobody replied *looking with reproach* wink.gif

I don't know what exactly brought me stability, but I changed following parameters all at once and it seems to be working well two days since, no matter what I throw at it:
X.M.P.
Rampage Tweak - Mode 3
Latency Boundary - Nearer
CPU Current Capability - 160%
VCCSA Current Capability - 130%
DRAM-AB/CD Current Capability - 130%
VCSSA and VTT both at 1.1 V

Hope it helps someone.

Also I would like to bump my original questions I am still curious about

If voltage listed in SPD is VCCSA, it is listed as such, or otherwise it is often VTT on older platforms, not current ones. It kind of depends on how many XMP profiles your sticks have. What I can say is that it is very rarely that ANY board, from ANY manufacturer, listens to that voltage setting with modern platforms. And I have played with many many motherboard for every platform from every brand.

Memory performance...depends on what DIMMs you've got, and which ICs they use. 8 GB sticks could be HYK0, could be MFR, 4 GB sticks could be many things as well.

As to offset questions...that's a complex question, and there are quite a few OC guides for other platforms that cover this info relatively well enough to get a general understanding. I personally feel that for most users, offset mode is too complex, but for 1155/1150, I recommend nothing but offset use.


Part of that has to do with BIOS tuning, so, let's just assume that this board is not fully tuned for OFFSET use since it's more intended for hardcore clockers and benchers, not those that use offset controls.(offset works fine, I'm too lazy to type it all out without getting paid for it). tongue.gif
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If voltage listed in SPD is VCCSA, it is listed as such, or otherwise it is often VTT on older platforms, not current ones. It kind of depends on how many XMP profiles your sticks have. What I can say is that it is very rarely that ANY board, from ANY manufacturer, listens to that voltage setting with modern platforms. And I have played with many many motherboard for every platform from every brand.

Memory performance...depends on what DIMMs you've got, and which ICs they use. 8 GB sticks could be HYK0, could be MFR, 4 GB sticks could be many things as well.
I can dig up X79 Intel datasheet which sets 1.1 Volts as top range for VTT and VCCSA. I looked really really hard everewhery, but there is no general consensus how harmful anything above those values.

Memory sticks are Corsair Dominator Platinum 2400 C10 4X4Gb which seems to be using Samsung chips (not entirely sure).

And thanks for answering, because at some other places it seems Cold War 2.0 already underway. helmetsmiley.png
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post #6695 of 14758
fatfree, if your really interested about Overclocking your set up then i would say take your time and read all of this post!!

Its one of the best i feel for learning more about the X79 Platform, i have already tried and used some of the settings here and they really do work!


1, http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18476907


Enjoy and have fun, sorry to see things going Bad to Worse!!

Regards,

AJ.
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I can dig up X79 Intel datasheet which sets 1.1 Volts as top range for VTT and VCCSA. I looked really really hard everewhery, but there is no general consensus how harmful anything above those values.

Memory sticks are Corsair Dominator Platinum 2400 C10 4X4Gb which seems to be using Samsung chips (not entirely sure).

And thanks for answering, because at some other places it seems Cold War 2.0 already underway. helmetsmiley.png

4 GB Samsung should give ~60-63k @ 2400, when tuned right. Look at settings used now, reboot and "load optimized defaults", then enable XMP and make all changes simultaneously. Going from OC settings to having XMP enabled or disabling XMP can make this performance thing appear, as can changing sticks without loading optimized defaults, etc...

you should try 2666 with those sticks though, 125 BCLK, 1.65-1.75V, 10-12-12-31, if those are 9-11-11 sticks. if 10-12-12 2400 sticks, then is probably Hynix, and you'll want to try 11-13-13-35 @ 2666. 2400 with 100 BCLK is not good with every CPU; unstable CPU can affect memory performance.
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so at least one worker quit (checksum did not match). Set it up like this.


And under Advanced menu, make sure Error Checking and Round off are enabled.

Two ways to go forward:

Why enable XMP? Set your bios manually. Especially the XMP - but if you want to use XMP, verify that the SPD is correctly read by the bios. (second to last bios page)
1) assuming teh error was cpu based, up the vcore (or vsa) a notch, or lower the multiplier one notch... eg, start tuning the cpu OC.
2) memory based: make sure you set mem timings to SPD (manually), and voltage to 1.65V (assumption on my part). Mode to Mode 3, Latency to Auto or Nearer. Scroll down to the 3rd timings, set tRRDR to 2 (probably at 0 if this is on auto) see if this is stable.

Edit: I see you have the same exact ram as i do. try setting it to 2133, 8-10-10-28-128-1T, 1.65V. tRDRR = auto. mode 3, latency to auto. at 4.5-4.9 this should be stable (only range i tested).
for the cpu:Try something simple like this

I enable XMP per your request.

During that test, the cpu was running stock, and I only enabled xmp, did the P95 and Integrity test, but only p95 failed.

Ok, will re-run the test with your mem speeds and cpu still at stock. How can I isolate the problem to the cpu or memory? With the cpu and memory at stock, having instability problems is what leads me to beleive it's the board. But, I could be wrong.

I'm using version 27.9


Edited by LaBestiaHumana - 3/21/14 at 12:50pm
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Hi there. I got today my Black. I ve a 3970X and im going to oc. If i set all cores to 45 - windows is booting and cpu-z shows 4.5Ghz. once i start a prime run - the cpu is clocking down to 3.5. 3.7 or something like that. someone an idea what i can do that it runs the 4.5ghz under prime?
post #6699 of 14758
Try checking in the Bios that you have disabled the "INTEL SPEED STEP"

Also double check things before you F10 and save plus Reboot as well!





If you need more help please come back to us on the thread!!



AJ.
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That was a lot of pages I went through!

Installed a sound blaster z soundcard with the use of a pcie riser... card is working mighty dandy with my quadfire 290x (which seems the standard pcie saturation test).

Onboard sound is decent (no static) but the soundcard rips it a new one when it comes to powering headsets (and mine is very light 60 ohm me thinks)
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