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Are there any guides on using the OC key??
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Originally Posted by nickolp View Post

Are there any guides on using the OC key??

I have not seen any, do you have a specific question?
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I enable XMP per your request.

During that test, the cpu was running stock, and I only enabled xmp, did the P95 and Integrity test, but only p95 failed.

Ok, will re-run the test with your mem speeds and cpu still at stock. How can I isolate the problem to the cpu or memory? With the cpu and memory at stock, having instability problems is what leads me to beleive it's the board. But, I could be wrong.

I'm using version 27.9


Sorry for the delayed reply... Friday night you know wink.gif

Yes, 27.9 build 1

Try not enabling XMP (use manual OC .. later. focus on the ram right now). Just set the memory speed (2133) and enter the primary timings manually. If you look at the SPD that the board (bios 602) reads on that ram it is a little off from the settings GSkill recommends (xmp2 is closest). It is always best to manually enter your primary ram timings (and a few 3rd timings sometimes). Isolating the issue has to be a stepwise process. If you know your ram passes memtest (base spd) and manually entering timings and voltage does not cure the problem, we move on to the CPU. Unlikely it is unlikely it's the MB (unlikely, not impossible) What you describe sounds like a sysyem accumulating errors (that's usually ram induced). Ivy-E does not implement the machine-check-error trap Alert (MCEs or WHEA) like 4-core ivys do. So we can't use that flag as a diagnostic.

Best to clr cmos, set your boot devices and other system devices, leave all cpu settings on auto, and work the memory until it is stable. be patient, it takes time. With this MB, I never switch between straps or BCLK without a clr cmos in between. rolleyes.gif

Once you get the ram stable (work on 2133 first. that 2400 kit is one of the best) you really should try that Offset OC method I posted for ya. Really simple for a solid working 24/7 OC (maybe not the best method for a bench-max OC) which will idle at <1V and add life to your cpu. Frankly, I don't understand why peps defeat 10 years of R&D at Intel leading to speedstep/turbo by using a fixed vcore. Fixed is great for extreme OC benching (I do it my self for that purpose), but IMO - not for 24/7 everyday use.
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Originally Posted by fatfree View Post

I was having problems (random reboots) with 2400 Mhz memory as well earlier, sadly nobody replied *looking with reproach* wink.gif

I don't know what exactly brought me stability, but I changed following parameters all at once and it seems to be working well two days since, no matter what I throw at it:
X.M.P.
Rampage Tweak - Mode 3
Latency Boundary - Nearer
CPU Current Capability - 160%
VCCSA Current Capability - 130%
DRAM-AB/CD Current Capability - 130%
VCSSA and VTT both at 1.1 V

Hope it helps someone.

Also I would like to bump my original questions I am still curious about

the ram write performance in AID64 is a prob for me too at 2400... unless I power off teh mobo (eg, switch off your PSU completely) then reboot. Write speed should return to 60K. also, the first tertiary timing has a significant effect. try setting this to 1 or 2 if Auto sets it to 0.

simple offset process: http://www.overclock.net/t/1439469/ivy-bridge-e-owners-club/640#post_21674429. Although this is for sandy.ivy, the concept and process is the same.
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the ram write performance in AID64 is a prob for me too at 2400... unless I power off teh mobo (eg, switch off your PSU completely) then reboot. Write speed should return to 60K. also, the first tertiary timing has a significant effect. try setting this to 1 or 2 if Auto sets it to 0.

simple offset process: http://www.overclock.net/t/1439469/ivy-bridge-e-owners-club/640#post_21674429. Although this is for sandy.ivy, the concept and process is the same.

After 3 days uptime on parameters as stated above and various torture, my PC crashed again. I starting to suspect it is not going to work unless I drasticaly raise VCCSA to X.M.P. specs of 1.20 Volts. I am not going to do that, so rather I decided to go for 1866-2133 with lowest timings I can get. So far setting 1866 leveled read-write performance to 53-53K MB/s.

Honestly, I never had so much trouble with RAM before on various platforms.
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Sorry for the delayed reply... Friday night you know wink.gif

Yes, 27.9 build 1

Try not enabling XMP (use manual OC .. later. focus on the ram right now). Just set the memory speed (2133) and enter the primary timings manually. If you look at the SPD that the board (bios 602) reads on that ram it is a little off from the settings GSkill recommends (xmp2 is closest). It is always best to manually enter your primary ram timings (and a few 3rd timings sometimes). Isolating the issue has to be a stepwise process. If you know your ram passes memtest (base spd) and manually entering timings and voltage does not cure the problem, we move on to the CPU. Unlikely it is unlikely it's the MB (unlikely, not impossible) What you describe sounds like a sysyem accumulating errors (that's usually ram induced). Ivy-E does not implement the machine-check-error trap Alert (MCEs or WHEA) like 4-core ivys do. So we can't use that flag as a diagnostic.

Best to clr cmos, set your boot devices and other system devices, leave all cpu settings on auto, and work the memory until it is stable. be patient, it takes time. With this MB, I never switch between straps or BCLK without a clr cmos in between. rolleyes.gif

Once you get the ram stable (work on 2133 first. that 2400 kit is one of the best) you really should try that Offset OC method I posted for ya. Really simple for a solid working 24/7 OC (maybe not the best method for a bench-max OC) which will idle at <1V and add life to your cpu. Frankly, I don't understand why peps defeat 10 years of R&D at Intel leading to speedstep/turbo by using a fixed vcore. Fixed is great for extreme OC benching (I do it my self for that purpose), but IMO - not for 24/7 everyday use.

Good advice, but I would add that the problem might be CPU cache, not just memory. remember that system cache uses ringbus, and errors here can cause Windows WHEA errors.

IN CPUs that behave like this, OFFSET mode doesn't work as easily as other chips. Frankly, I think that's where the BIOS needs current limits adjusted...on CPU cache and vccsa, and using offset mode, to me, kind of exposes this (nevermind users with current issues at stock, which uses offset mode)
Edited by cadaveca - 3/22/14 at 10:45am
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Sorry for the delayed reply... Friday night you know wink.gif

Yes, 27.9 build 1

Try not enabling XMP (use manual OC .. later. focus on the ram right now). Just set the memory speed (2133) and enter the primary timings manually. If you look at the SPD that the board (bios 602) reads on that ram it is a little off from the settings GSkill recommends (xmp2 is closest). It is always best to manually enter your primary ram timings (and a few 3rd timings sometimes). Isolating the issue has to be a stepwise process. If you know your ram passes memtest (base spd) and manually entering timings and voltage does not cure the problem, we move on to the CPU. Unlikely it is unlikely it's the MB (unlikely, not impossible) What you describe sounds like a sysyem accumulating errors (that's usually ram induced). Ivy-E does not implement the machine-check-error trap Alert (MCEs or WHEA) like 4-core ivys do. So we can't use that flag as a diagnostic.

Best to clr cmos, set your boot devices and other system devices, leave all cpu settings on auto, and work the memory until it is stable. be patient, it takes time. With this MB, I never switch between straps or BCLK without a clr cmos in between. rolleyes.gif

Once you get the ram stable (work on 2133 first. that 2400 kit is one of the best) you really should try that Offset OC method I posted for ya. Really simple for a solid working 24/7 OC (maybe not the best method for a bench-max OC) which will idle at <1V and add life to your cpu. Frankly, I don't understand why peps defeat 10 years of R&D at Intel leading to speedstep/turbo by using a fixed vcore. Fixed is great for extreme OC benching (I do it my self for that purpose), but IMO - not for 24/7 everyday use.


Thanks a lot man. The memory is rock solid at 2133 with your settings. +1 thumb.gif

Haven't had much time to tinker with the CPU overclock ever since TitanFall arrived, I've been on that. Hopefully I get some time tomorrow afternoon to tinker with settings. I also need to know what those settings do. tongue.gif Gonna grab an Overclocking for dummies book.
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I flashed my bios to ver.0602. It seems to be working OK. Anyone have any problems with 0602 that we might have to look out for?
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Moved the mem TY =)

Was a late night build, will try your settings tonight


TY
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