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So I was testing some things out tonight and noticed that 1.44v in the bios with high LLC would droop down to 1.424v in cpuz under prime95 load,

BUT

With the measuring points on the board itself and using a DMM, it was 1.45v.

Thought you guys would like to know!

Thought the board had massive vdroop until now, guess not.doh.gif
    
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Here is my order from ncix.
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Here is my order from ncix.

Welcome to the club
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Thank you now I got a huge Resource for Finely tuning this board.
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So I was testing some things out tonight and noticed that 1.44v in the bios with high LLC would droop down to 1.424v in cpuz under prime95 load,
BUT
With the measuring points on the board itself and using a DMM, it was 1.45v.
Thought you guys would like to know!
Thought the board had massive vdroop until now, guess not.doh.gif

Yes - CPUZ reads low on my board too (bios 602). 1.392 = 1.408V DMM etc...
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After 3 days uptime on parameters as stated above and various torture, my PC crashed again. I starting to suspect it is not going to work unless I drasticaly raise VCCSA to X.M.P. specs of 1.20 Volts. I am not going to do that, so rather I decided to go for 1866-2133 with lowest timings I can get. So far setting 1866 leveled read-write performance to 53-53K MB/s.

Honestly, I never had so much trouble with RAM before on various platforms.

it is really helpful of you put your "rig in your sig" so we know what kit you are working with. http://www.overclock.net/t/1258253/how-to-put-your-rig-in-your-sig

If you have the gskill 2400 9-11-11-31 ram kit, that is a great kit! 2400, 2666 capable, but for most EVERYTHING we do, with the notable exception of extreme benching, tight timings at a lower frequency can be perfect. try 2133, 8-10-10-28-128-1T. leave vtt on auto (will run 1.05V at this ram speed w/ ivy-e) If that's is a gaming rig, I suggest using offset mode overclocking, and take advantage of this feature. You will not see or feel a difference between 2400@9 and 2133@8.

2400 (bclk 100) on the r4be with an ivy-e will need 1.2+/-0.05V on VTT and 1.15-1.18V VSA ... IME
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it is really helpful of you put your "rig in your sig" so we know what kit you are working with. http://www.overclock.net/t/1258253/how-to-put-your-rig-in-your-sig

If you have the gskill 2400 9-11-11-31 ram kit, that is a great kit! 2400, 2666 capable, but for most EVERYTHING we do, with the notable exception of extreme benching, tight timings at a lower frequency can be perfect. try 2133, 8-10-10-28-128-1T. leave vtt on auto (will run 1.05V at this ram speed w/ ivy-e) If that's is a gaming rig, I suggest using offset mode overclocking, and take advantage of this feature. You will not see or feel a difference between 2400@9 and 2133@8.

2400 (bclk 100) on the r4be with an ivy-e will need 1.2+/-0.05V on VTT and 1.15-1.18V VSA ... IME
That is the memory I own, two kits: Corsair Dominator PlatinumCMD8GX3M2A2400C10. According to dismantling, chips are Samsung HCH9. Any expirience with it?

Don't you think those voltages will cause CPU degradation overtime if left 24/7?

Also I want to add that whenever I set frequency higher than 1866, write performance dips by 1/3 of read performance, e.g. 54 MB/s read vs 38 MB/s write, while at 1866 they are even. Strange stuff.
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That is the memory I own, two kits: Corsair Dominator PlatinumCMD8GX3M2A2400C10. According to dismantling, chips are Samsung HCH9. Any expirience with it?

Don't you think those voltages will cause CPU degradation overtime if left 24/7?

Also I want to add that whenever I set frequency higher than 1866, write performance dips by 1/3 of read performance, e.g. 54 MB/s read vs 38 MB/s write, while at 1866 they are even. Strange stuff.

First - are you using an unmatched set of ram? eg, Two 8GB kits? either way, that corsair unmatched ram should do 2133 with 9-11-10-30 (or 28)-160-1T at 1,65V. You have to change the memory timings manually!
What voltages are you referring to??
What do you intend to do with your rig? Gaming?
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First - are you using an unmatched set of ram? eg, Two 8GB kits? either way, that corsair unmatched ram should do 2133 with 9-11-10-30 (or 28)-160-1T at 1,65V. You have to change the memory timings manually!
What voltages are you referring to??
What do you intend to do with your rig? Gaming?

9-11-11- 2400 MHz HCH9


=

2133 Mhz 9-11-10-27 @ 1.5V, iirc.




MODE3, 9-11-10-27-1t, NEARER, 7-171-8320-16-8-40-8-6-8

Most of the Dominator Platinum Samsung sticks can do that speed/timings. The actual 2133 MHz 1.5V sticks are these Samsung, while 1.65V 2133 C9 Platinums are Hynix-based. The Samsung 2133 will do 2666 @ 1.65~1.7V.
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First - are you using an unmatched set of ram? eg, Two 8GB kits? either way, that corsair unmatched ram should do 2133 with 9-11-10-30 (or 28)-160-1T at 1,65V. You have to change the memory timings manually!
What voltages are you referring to??
What do you intend to do with your rig? Gaming?
Thats right, two kits. However I was using X.M.P only initially, then only manual mode, which still caused instability. I will try those settings, thanks!
I was referring VTT and VCSSA past 1.15 Volts.
Yeah, gaming rig plus folding when idle.
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