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Originally Posted by asfgbdnf View Post

Any difference between them?

One is 16 chips to make 4 GB, the other is 8 chips to make 4 GB(double the storage density per IC).


Or wait...you mean the kits themselves? Under the hood, not much difference likely, since only Samsung can really get C9 @ 2400 consistently. Just make sure if you want to use 8 sticks...you buy a full kit of 8 sticks.


And forget about running 2400 @ 100 BCLK with 8 sticks.

Honestly, I don't think you can go wrong here with either kit.. Even if for some reason you ended up with some crazy Hynix MFR under the hood.
post #6802 of 14756
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Originally Posted by cadaveca View Post

One is 16 chips to make 4 GB, the other is 8 chips to make 4 GB(double the storage density per IC).


Or wait...you mean the kits themselves? Under the hood, not much difference likely, since only Samsung can really get C9 @ 2400 consistently. Just make sure if you want to use 8 sticks...you buy a full kit of 8 sticks.


And forget about running 2400 @ 100 BCLK with 8 sticks.

Honestly, I don't think you can go wrong here with either kit.. Even if for some reason you ended up with some crazy Hynix MFR under the hood.
Gskill starts to make 2400c9 kit with MFR?!
That's crazy.
post #6803 of 14756
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Gskill starts to make 2400c9 kit with MFR?!
That's crazy.

Nah, I think they have not. But only so many IC are capable of those clocks/timings.


I ask G.Skill for IC info with every sample they send me, but never do I get a real answer. Of course, sticks in hand, pulling heatspreader is no problem, but I know now the physical differences on the IC edge so that I need not remove heatspreaders. Took amny kit and pulling them all apart before I figured out what was what.


G.skill 2400 C9 should be Samsung. Rare chance to be Hynix, but not MFR. Also heard there was limited-release 2400 C9 @ 1.5V sticks..never saw a kit myself though.

Myself, I have many sticks here that can do 2400 C9 with MFR. but most optimal for MFR is like 2133 11-11-11-28 @ 1.35V. MFR is really 1.35V IC, with 1600 MHz speed bin, and many kits only have H9C MFR..or 1333 MHz bin.
Edited by cadaveca - 3/28/14 at 3:46pm
post #6804 of 14756
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Originally Posted by cadaveca View Post

Nah, I think they have not. But only so many IC are capable of those clocks/timings.


I ask G.Skill for IC info with every sample they send me, but never do I get a real answer. Of course, sticks in hand, pulling heatspreader is no problem, but I know now the physical differences on the IC edge so that I need not remove heatspreaders. Took amny kit and pulling them all apart before I figured out what was what.


G.skill 2400 C9 should be Samsung. Rare chance to be Hynix, but not MFR. Also heard there was limited-release 2400 C9 @ 1.5V sticks..never saw a kit myself though.

Myself, I have many sticks here that can do 2400 C9 with MFR. but most optimal for MFR is like 2133 11-11-11-28 @ 1.35V. MFR is really 1.35V IC, with 1600 MHz speed bin, and many kits only have H9C MFR..or 1333 MHz bin.

You said it's not 100% sure 2400c9 is made from Samsung IC, Hynix IC is also possible. My next question is 2666c10 is definitely Samsung, right? Can Hynix IC clock at 2666c10? I think you have corsair 2666c10 and also 2666c10 from GSKILL, which one clocks better?
Edited by asfgbdnf - 3/28/14 at 4:03pm
post #6805 of 14756
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You said it's not 100% sure 2400c9 is made from Samsung IC, Hynix IC is also possible. My next question is 2666c10 is definitely Samsung, right? Can Hynix IC clock at 2666c10? I think you have corsair 2666c10 and also 2666c10 from GSKILL, which one clocks better?

Hynix can do C10, yes, if really good, but don't think any was sold as such.

I also think any Hynix that had 2400 C9 label was given as sample only, if at all. And who knows, maybe the users relating that info were wrong.


Do keep in mind I just try to collect data through my experience and others, so I know MY experience is correct, but not others. it's hard to decipher this sort of stuff, just have to collect data and can only eliminate the things I know 100% for sure are wrong.

Corsair C10 or G.Skill C10...same stuff, luck of the draw on OC. I had hynix C11 2666 Gskill set that did 2933 MHz @ 1.65V....
post #6806 of 14756
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Originally Posted by asfgbdnf View Post

Hello guys, I'm looking at two 2400C9 RAM kit. One with SKU: F3-2400C9Q-16GTXD and looks like

The other one with SKU: F3-19200CL9Q 16GBZMD and it looks like


They should be both HYK0 IC. Anyone knows what is the difference between these two? Which one clocks better?

I have those tridents. a very good kit.

for the Z's I have the 2666 kit...only okay (IMO).

oh yeah - what I like about the c9 tridents, is the do 2133 @ c8 very smoothly with low volts...but also do 2666 at c10!
Edited by Jpmboy - 3/28/14 at 4:40pm
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post #6807 of 14756
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I have those tridents. a very good kit.

for the Z's I have the 2666 kit...only okay (IMO).
is it 2666c10 for your Z kit?
post #6808 of 14756
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is it 2666c10 for your Z kit?

I haven't tried them at c10, only c11. (actually gonna sell 'em)
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post #6809 of 14756
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Hynix can do C10, yes, if really good, but don't think any was sold as such.

I also think any Hynix that had 2400 C9 label was given as sample only, if at all. And who knows, maybe the users relating that info were wrong.


Do keep in mind I just try to collect data through my experience and others, so I know MY experience is correct, but not others. it's hard to decipher this sort of stuff, just have to collect data and can only eliminate the things I know 100% for sure are wrong.

Corsair C10 or G.Skill C10...same stuff, luck of the draw on OC. I had hynix C11 2666 Gskill set that did 2933 MHz @ 1.65V....

cadaveca, can you find any new PSC based RAM kit>?
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cadaveca, can you find any new PSC based RAM kit>?

I have NCIX, Memory Express, BCOM, and a couple other local shops to choose from. I'd have to scour their inventory.
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