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Can I be added to the club please? Loving my new board!

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Depends on the platform and the CPU. For IVB-E, 1.3V and 4.5 GHz is a great starting point, however, the first thing I ever do is run stock, and grab power draw numbers and stock voltages using a multi meter. I also guage performance in basic tasks, and get some gaming done. I like to use "stock" for some time, monitoring all aspects of the system.

Then, I boost voltage to "safe" levels(1.3V here with IVB-E), and try for 4.6 GHz. To me, 4.6 GHz is the most optimal speed for daily use. If it works right away, I then drop voltages to lowest possible.

Then, while finding 4.6 GHz stable, I check power consumption, temperature, and all voltages, paying attention to how stable voltages are, too.

Then, I clock up the memory, while leaving CPU at stock. Once stable, I clock the CPU back up.

I also test using one-, two-, and three-GPU configs with each chip.

Then, I test each CPU multi down from that 4.6 GHz, check voltages along the way. At some point, multi increase requires a larger voltage boost. I use either one above(memory clocking), or one below(24-7), that big boost.

The general tests I use are listed in my Haswell OC guide posted on TPU.

Thanks alot! We think a lot alike. That's pretty much the way I've been overclocking. I plan to just leave my ram at 2133. Would you just use XMP for that or would you pull the timings and settings and enter them manually? Is there a difference? I also read your haswell guide on TPU. Great job very well written I'm going to try your way of stability testing.
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I hope that you didn't hit apply with that settings on the classy controller, unless you are aiming to kill your cards!

I didn't, I was just playing around with the sliders being bored.
post #6934 of 14772
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Thanks alot! We think a lot alike. That's pretty much the way I've been overclocking. I plan to just leave my ram at 2133. Would you just use XMP for that or would you pull the timings and settings and enter them manually? Is there a difference? I also read your haswell guide on TPU. Great job very well written I'm going to try your way of stability testing.

Memory is always done without XMP. I use XMP for reviews, since that is what works across all boards and most users will do(mostly), but for myself, it is all manual, all the time. This is important, since boards will not listen to manual settings all the time(specifically TRFC with this board), and noticing which settings change contrary to what you have set can be a fantastic tool to figuring out those last little things required for long-term stability.

At the same time, I do some stuff that I have never heard or seen online, in regards to burn-in with CPUs. There are two approaches...stable max clock with removing cooling so temps increase, and stable max with extreme cold and excessive voltages and high loads. I try to push leakage higher on purpose with low-voltage chips, since this modifies how a chip behaves with cold. Seeing how a chip reacts to this treatment is interesting to me somehow.

So while other guys are running LN2 for HWBOT, I run LN2 for myself, and don't share my results publically, since I don't care about scores, I care about playing with the hardware. Like reviews...I'm not important...the hardware is.
post #6935 of 14772
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Originally Posted by Zidd View Post

Any reason why the I might be told it wasnt compatible?
I had mentioned to me about the Cooler Master Cosmos 2 but £350, on a £2400 rig, really starting to add up.
Donno if should be reconsidering if all this X99 talk is true
They must have missed the multiple times I said it was fitting despite Fractal is not advertising it to be compatible, which is normal since it cover the cables holes.
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I didn't, I was just playing around with the sliders being bored.
You had me worried for a second, but then I saw the frequency, still don't burn those precious tongue.gif
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Storm trooper or Strom stryker are Both really good and inexpensive case. Should be under 200$
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post #6937 of 14772
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Originally Posted by cadaveca View Post

Yep, and while we like to push, we need to support the regular users that help fund the development of the next gear we buy. thumb.gif


It's not condescending...it's simply asking for some patience. I don't like reading people bashing others and how they use their stuff. Had you BOUGHT that stuff for him..OK. tongue.gif

It's not trolling...it's me trying to help build a stronger community. I mean, you do not feel your post was condescending at all?
No, simply trying to show the other side of his comment. Plain and simple. You're way off on what you're saying. Here's a refresher -


Him - "There is a old saying "IF ITS NOT BROKEN, DON'T FIX IT" in other words if your previous Bios was working perfectly before, why change anything!!
I am still on 0507 with my 4960X here and its still going well, as for some of the Members posts about there OC problems!
From what i have seen they are way off the mark and could do better, to help themselves. redface.gifwink.gif"


Me - That's almost like saying "Why overclock? The cpu works perfectly at stock."
I understand that most people don't use the earlier releases on the R4E.
You try a new bios to see if it offers anything more in terms of performance, lower voltage, or stability. I rue the day when nobody tries something new. Nothing will ever advance. My 2cents.gif


Where exactly am I telling anybody what to do with their hardware?And exactly how am bashing? rolleyes.gif

For you to jump in was pointless and trolling for sure. Further more, you're definitely twisting the situation with your last response to me.
Almost every time I post you seem to have something to say about it, regardless of who it's directed at.
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Almost every time I post you seem to have something to say about it, regardless of who it's directed at.

You simply bring up good things to discuss. thumb.gif

Discussion isn't trolling.
post #6939 of 14772
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Hey guys after a Silent case for this mobo.
Was getting the Fractal Define R4 Black Case, but told its not compatible for this eATX mobo.

Heard mentions of:
NZXT Whisper
nzxt-switch-810-hybrid
Or maybe modding a Phantom with foam and silent kit?? Heard the plastic aint great quality so even if silenced, still sounds like rattling. Im guessing this would be the case for most cases.

Here is rest of my spec btw, if anyone thinks there will be any issues.

Power Supply: Seasonic 850W Gold Power Supply
Processor: Intel Core i7 4930K Six Core (3.4GHz, 12MB Cache overclockable upto 4.4GHz, Hyperthreading) Socket 2011
CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H100 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
Graphics Card 1: nVidia GeForce GTX 780 3GB GDDR5 PCI Express Graphics Card
Memory: 16-32GB Corsair DDR3 1866MHz C10 Quad Channel Memory Kit (2-4 x 8GB)
Hard Disk Drive One: 500GB Samsung 840 Evo SSD
Hard Disk Drive Two: 1TB Seagate 64MB Cache
Optical Drive One: Blu-Ray Rewriter & DVD-RW Combo Drive
Sound Card: Onboard HD 7.1 Audio OR Creative SoundBlaster Z
Operating System: Windows8Pro 64bit

Was going for a X79 Sabertooth, and then was considering the newer Delux for £10 more,
but the Rampage IV Black won me with the OC external device and fetures.
Not sure if worth £100 more though, especially if X99 are on way

(sorry if spouting rubbish, im slowly picking up stuff last couple month as research build. Been away from the game for 8 years, and yearning for an incredible rig. But dont want it to be 'out of date' by the time i have paid for it. Im likely to keep this for years, but want the room to expand as I go. Dont want to be shelling out for new system in 2-5yrs time. Using it for gaming, HD video editing, some 3d, progressing into Unity)

this is not a true eatx, it is a psudo and will fit 99% of cases that fit full atx !
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Thanks for the tip Cadaveca.
I reapplied my changed from a clean F5 and the memory speed is back. almost looks like the save/restore OC profile is messing things up. It do power off the flick the switch on the PSU, hit power button to flush the capacitors between runs so it still fells like there's some voodo dance missing.

btw, which water chiller you got? the Koolance EXC-800?
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Originally Posted by Zidd View Post

Hey guys after a Silent case for this mobo.
Was getting the Fractal Define R4 Black Case, but told its not compatible for this eATX mobo.

Heard mentions of:
NZXT Whisper
nzxt-switch-810-hybrid
Or maybe modding a Phantom with foam and silent kit?? Heard the plastic aint great quality so even if silenced, still sounds like rattling. Im guessing this would be the case for most cases.

Here is rest of my spec btw, if anyone thinks there will be any issues.

Power Supply: Seasonic 850W Gold Power Supply
Processor: Intel Core i7 4930K Six Core (3.4GHz, 12MB Cache overclockable upto 4.4GHz, Hyperthreading) Socket 2011
CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H100 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
Graphics Card 1: nVidia GeForce GTX 780 3GB GDDR5 PCI Express Graphics Card
Memory: 16-32GB Corsair DDR3 1866MHz C10 Quad Channel Memory Kit (2-4 x 8GB)
Hard Disk Drive One: 500GB Samsung 840 Evo SSD
Hard Disk Drive Two: 1TB Seagate 64MB Cache
Optical Drive One: Blu-Ray Rewriter & DVD-RW Combo Drive
Sound Card: Onboard HD 7.1 Audio OR Creative SoundBlaster Z
Operating System: Windows8Pro 64bit

Was going for a X79 Sabertooth, and then was considering the newer Delux for £10 more,
but the Rampage IV Black won me with the OC external device and fetures.
Not sure if worth £100 more though, especially if X99 are on way

(sorry if spouting rubbish, im slowly picking up stuff last couple month as research build. Been away from the game for 8 years, and yearning for an incredible rig. But dont want it to be 'out of date' by the time i have paid for it. Im likely to keep this for years, but want the room to expand as I go. Dont want to be shelling out for new system in 2-5yrs time. Using it for gaming, HD video editing, some 3d, progressing into Unity)

here:
Memory: 16-32GB Corsair DDR3 1866MHz C10 Quad Channel Memory Kit (2-4 x 8GB)

If you buy 2 kit that are not matched by Corsair you might end up having to run them at 1600.
    
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