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post #7021 of 14763
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Originally Posted by tistou77 View Post

Indeed, I did not really understand biggrin.gif

I see with 0602, to need more vcore to be stable (voltages taken multimeter)
I don't worry, I only noticed that with the 0602 it needs more vcore to be stable, there is not just me that has noticed and remains on the 403 or 507

At the moment, I stay with the 0507, which works very well with less vcore


Power = voltage X amperage. That's what you need to get your head around. If there is a change in amperage, then voltage will need to be adjusted for same power target smile.gif
post #7022 of 14763
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Originally Posted by Shadowarez View Post

Tried that after I flashed main bios. Had all these issues I switched to 2nd bios booted up it updated 2nd bios didnt have a choise if I wanted to or not I-ROG 1-2 updated before I could test original bios.

If the two builds have different iROG firmware, then the iROG update process will take place every time you switch between them.


PS. The board should be left alone to perform that change - the microcontroller firmware and UEFI builds go hand in hand.
Edited by Raja@ASUS - 4/7/14 at 7:21am
post #7023 of 14763




My new setup...went from x58 to x79
post #7024 of 14763
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Originally Posted by tistou77 View Post

Indeed, I did not really understand biggrin.gif

I see with 0602, to need more vcore to be stable (voltages taken multimeter)
I don't worry, I only noticed that with the 0602 it needs more vcore to be stable, there is not just me that has noticed and remains on the 403 or 507

At the moment, I stay with the 0507, which works very well with less vcore

What Raja is saying is that if you check actual power pulled via 8-pin, you'll find it's the same (I have and it remains within 1-2 watts). The higher vcore is actually SAFER, since in the end, slightly less current is being applied at any given voltage.
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Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS View Post

If the two builds have different iROG firmware, then the iROG update process will take place every time you switch between them.


PS. The board should be left alone to perform that change - the microcontroller firmware and UEFI builds go hand in hand.


When I flashed to 0602, only ROG1 updated, and then I had those issues with my first board and LAN not working on cold boot. Back-flash to 0208, which updated ROG1 and ROG2, and LAN issues are fixed.

I also noted that Windows wasn't activated any more, and that my OS now loads much slower on desktop, with the CFOS software loading after the delay.


Is it possible the CFOS software was actually the culprit of my LAN issues?


That said, I'm back on my ES board, after flashing BIOS, everything is working again as it should, but now second board is a bit wonky. tongue.gif
Edited by cadaveca - 4/7/14 at 10:52am
post #7025 of 14763
I would not advise keeping two builds so far apart generally - if there are any ME updates or OROM changes can cause problems when flicking back and forth between them. Or there can be issues if the board is not stable when the updates are taking place.
post #7026 of 14763
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Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS View Post

if there are any ME updates or OROM changes can cause problems when flicking back and forth between them.

No kidding. tongue.gif

I hear what you are saying...back to testing! wink.gif

So..uh... flash BIOSes in succession is the best practice?
post #7027 of 14763
Not necessarily succession. If the ME or OROM has changed then going back to a build based on an older ME/OROM version may cause problems. The CPU microcode sometimes relies on various combos of firmware to work properly.
post #7028 of 14763
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Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS View Post

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Originally Posted by tistou77 View Post

Comparing 0507 and 0602 (same settings, LLC High)

With the 0507:

Bios Vcore: 1.26v
Vcore read bios and windows (idle / load): 1.264v
stable bench (LinX, etc ...) and no problem of cold boot

With these settings and the 0602, the bench is not stable, and I'm having problems with cold boot

I must put these settings

Bios Vcore: 1.27v
Vcore read bios and windows, idle: 1.28v, load: 1.264v
to be stable bench and no problem of cold boot

I don't understand why the 0602 bios and the next, it needs more vcore
New policy of Asus?

After I was accustomed to bios of Shamino, best/optimized every time
Here it is the opposite tongue.gif

This is probably a bit past your understanding but here goes:

You are forgetting that Vcore on its own means nothing - it the current the CPU draws with Vcore that matters. As there was a regulation and current sensing change, the Vcore needs adjustment to ensure the CPU gets the current it needs to be stable.


In other words these Vcore compares you are making are meaningless because the current ramping (hence error correction) of the VRM has changed.

Set the Vcore the CPU needs on 0602 and be happy. Stop worrying about the Vocre change smile.gif


Oh an BTW, maybe this will help put your finicky nature at rest - the Vcore current circuit is Shamino's idea smile.gif
makes perfect sense to me
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I reflashed 0403 and 2nd 0507 for 2nd to test im back down to 1.25 vcore 4.7ghz stable in prime.i went to rog asked on forum if they could mod 0403 with all latest drivers, also switched to 8.1 pro and a proper uefi install, only downside i noticed washed out graphics in games. But lil bit of tweaking im sure i can fix that.
post #7030 of 14763
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I reflashed 0403 and 2nd 0507 for 2nd to test im back down to 1.25 vcore 4.7ghz stable in prime.i went to rog asked on forum if they could mod 0403 with all latest drivers, also switched to 8.1 pro and a proper uefi install, only downside i noticed washed out graphics in games. But lil bit of tweaking im sure i can fix that.

is that 1.25V vcore measured with a DMM or read from software?
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