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I like my blackhawk ultra case lol tongue.gif.

It's not perfect, but it's good enough.
You're not gonna get much better unless you buy one of those extremely expensive giant cube cases from somewhere.

I'de like to get a 9x120 rad or 2 (not right this sec though), not sure if it'll fit on the side though.
I kinda want it externally anyways, I had some ideas with that.
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Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post

again - try offset @ 0.005V and additional turbo @ 0.05V +/- what's needed to hold the frequency. what was the cpuZ vcore reading during R15?? is that with unsynched cores? and was the max T on one or 2 cores only?
r15 score is a reasonable assessment of your cpu productivity (little effect by mem freq). a 4.6GHz 4930K should be over 1200... and closer to 1250 (... with cores synched). you just need to tune things up a bit. gotta have patience when tuning an overclock.

Here is what I came up with: (4.5GHz 0.005 Offset Vcore 0.020 Turbo 2400MHz 70ºC)
Seems stable, ran Cinebench no probs but it's too Hot!
My previous Fixed OC was maxing 60ºC on air. With these settings I'm reaching 70ºC.
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Ai Overclock Tuner .…………………………………………………….. Manual
(Timings for 2400MHz 10-12-12-31-2 Everything else on Auto)
CPU Level Up ………………………………………………………………. Disabled
BCLK Frequency ………………………………………………………….. 100.000
CPU Strap ……………………………………………………………………. Auto
ClockGen Full Reset ……………………………………………………. Enabled
CPU Core Ratio …………………………………………………………… Per Core
1-Core Ratio Limit ………………………………………………………. 45
2-Core Ratio Limit ………………………………………………………. 44
3-Core Ratio Limit ………………………………………………………. 44
4-Core Ratio Limit ………………………………………………………. 44
5-Core Ratio Limit ………………………………………………………. 43
6-Core Ratio Limit ………………………………………………………. 43
Internal PLL Overvoltage ……………………………………………. Enabled
DRAM Frequency ……………………………………………………….. DDR3-2400MHz
Xtreme Tweaking …………………………………………………….…. Enabled
EPU Power Saving Mode ……………………………………….……. Enabled
EPU Settings ……………………………………………………………..… Auto
Rampage Tweak ………………………………………………………….. Mode 3
Latency Boundary ……………………………………………………….. Nearer
Extreme OV ………………………………………………………….….…. Disabled
BLCK Skew …………………………………………………………….……. Auto
CPU VCORE Voltage ………………………………………..……….…. Offset Mode
Offset Mode Sign ………………………………………………………… +
CPU VCORE Offset Voltage …………………………………..……… 0.005
VTT CPU Voltage ……………………………………………..……..….. Auto (Currently 1.24+)
2nd VTTCPU Voltage ………………………………………..……….…. Auto (Currently 1.05+)
CPU VCCSA Voltage ………………………………………..………..... Manual
CPU VCCSA Manual Voltage ……………………..…………..……. 0.995
DRAM Voltage (CHA, CHB) ………………………………..…….…. 1.650
DRAM Voltage (CHC, CHD) ……………………………..……….…. 1.650
CPU PLL Voltage ……………………………………………..…..….…. Auto
PCH 1.1v Voltage ……………………………………………………….. Auto
Initial PLL Termination Voltage …………………………………… Auto
Eventual PLL Termination Voltage ……………………………… Auto
VTTDDR Voltage (CHA, CHB) ………………………………………. Auto
VTTDDR Voltage (CHC, CHD) ………………………………………. Auto
CPU PLL Termination ………………………………………………….. Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum ………………………………………………… Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum ………………………………………………... Disabled
BCLK Recovery ……………………………………………………………. Enabled

CPU Load-Line Calibration ………………………………………….. Medium
CPU Current Capability ………………………………………………. Auto
CPU Voltage Frequency ……………………………………………… Auto
VRM Over Temperature Protection ……………………………. Auto
CPU Power Duty Control …………………………………………….. T.Probe
Vcore MOS volt. Control …………………………………………….. Auto
CPU Power Phase Control …………………………………………… Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum ………………………………………………… Disabled
Current Inrush Inertia …………………………………………………. Auto
CPU VCORE Boot Up Voltage ………………………………………. Auto
VCCSA Load-Line Calibration ………………………………………. Auto
VCCSA Current Capability ……………………………………………. 100%
VCCSA Fixed Frequency ………………………………………………. 300
CPU VCCSA Boot Up Voltage ………………………………………. Auto
CPU VTT Switching Freq ……………………………………………… Auto
CPU VTT Over-Current Protection ………………………………. Auto
DRAM-AB Current Capability ………………………………………. 100%
DRAM-AB Voltage Frequency ..……………………………………. Auto
DRAM-AB Phase Control …….………………………………………. Standard
DRAM-CD Current Capability ………………………………………. 100%
DRAM-CD Voltage Frequency ..……………………………………. Auto
DRAM-CD Phase Control …….………………………………………. Standard
PCH 1.1V Switching Freq ……………………………………………… Auto

Enhance Intel SpeedStep Technology …………………………… Enabled
Turbo Mode …………………………………………………………………. Enabled
Power Limit Control ……………………………………………………… Enabled
Long Duration Power Limit …………………………………………… Auto
Long Duration Maintained ……………………………………………. Auto
Short Duration Power Limit …………………………………………... Auto
Additional Turbo Voltage ………………………………………………. 0.020
CPU Core Current Limit …………………………………………………. Auto

Intel Adaptive Thermal Monitor ……………………………………. Enabled
Hyper-threading …………………………………………………………… Enabled
Active Processor Cores …………………………………………………. All
Limit CPUID Maximum …………………………………………………. Enabled
Execute Disable Bit ………………………………………………………. Disabled
Intel Virtualization Technology …………………………………….. Disabled

CPU C States …………………………………………………………………. Auto

Anti Surge Support ……………………………………………………….. Enabled
Shouldn't my VTT CPU Voltage be under 1.15V?
It won't boot at anything lower then 1.24V. How can I lower my VTT ???


Edited by AstralAnimal - 4/24/14 at 2:41pm
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Turn CPU LLC on High
Try DDR3-2133

See if it boots
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Turn CPU LLC on High
Try DDR3-2133

See if it boots

Yes with LLC on high it boots just fine But Medium is better because I get a max of 1.34V Vcore whereas on high I get 1.36V.
My worries are the temps. How can I lower the VTT ???
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Yes with LLC on high it boots just fine But Medium is better because I get a max of 1.34V Vcore whereas on high I get 1.36V.
My worries are the temps. How can I lower the VTT ???

Set it manually. Try 1.05 for VTT. VTT shouldn't have much, if any affect on temps. Maybe somebody else can confirm this.
Edited by JLMS2010 - 4/24/14 at 12:45pm
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What multiplier? What is LLC set to?

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Originally Posted by NEOAethyr View Post

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOTE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My advice in this post is only for those with 125mhz strap or higher, not for those using 100mhz strap.
Are you using a 125mhz strap?
If so go back a few pages and read my post (pg. 732).

When Jpmboy talked about hitting the red, normally that would be correct, but in the case of 125mhz strap it's not quite right smile.gif.

Pretty sure you need to start with a +0.2v offset (99% sure this is right but it's been a while so start with +0.1v 1st).
Sounds like alot I know.

You can try a manual voltage 1st and see if that boots.
Try 1.2v manual.

If that works, figure out the offset, manual voltage will get it stuck at 1.2v (no idle), so when you try for an offset you won't wanna reach the same level in the bios readings.
If you got an offset reading 1.2v in the bios then you're in trouble when you goto windows...

Anyways start with an offset of +0.1v, sounds like a alot but if your on a 125mhz strap it's not.
Double check the bios reading before booting windows to make sure it looks halfway normal.
Boot windows if you can, check cpu-z with some load like aida64's benchmark (not a huge load smile.gif ).
See if it reaches about 1.216v on the vcore, that's pretty much stock voltage readings right there.
Hit me back if this works out for ya smile.gif.

You could also use hwmonitor32, but I recommend cpu-z, because I know that 1.216v on that is ruffly stock (-0.005v offset at stock strap).

Oh and start with a cpu multi you think is stable at stock voltages and verify it before moving on up.


...
I made a post on the asus forums for someone asking for help with vcore.
I recommend lynx, there's no real difference between it and ibt but I like lynx better.
It'll get you close enough to stable voltages, but it won't get you to the very edge.
It's probably good for 0.025v or something like that.
Getting closer then that (again I'm not sure exactly where the cut off is), requires running over 5hrs of y-cruncher (6hrs min, I always run 8).
Lynx will get you just a few steps away from getting the perfect vcore.
At the programs stock settings, just run it, 15mins later you're done.
There isn't anything quicker then that, I've checked.

I checked mine at 4.5ghz.
Because my cpu is SOOO close to getting stable at stock voltages at that speed.
So most programs can't detect errors at all.
I ran over 12hrs of lynx as well as ibt separately (manually set to it's max mem values), not a single program other then y-cruncher was able to show me errors.
And even y-cruncher took hours to do so.

Oh I forgot, I did not check prime though.
I haven't got around to it yet.

Indicated above smile.gif

36x125

So I tested a positive offset to 0.16, but I have a nice BSOD,
More, the 0.16 is in purple (or red, I believe) in the bios
And in the bios, it indicates 1.16v for vcore...

I tested from +0.005 to +0.030, no boot
With 0.040 (1.040v in the bios), BSOD for Windows
With 0.050 (1.056v in the bios), BSOD for Windows

Thanks
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Indicated above smile.gif

36x125

So I tested a positive offset to 0.16, but I have a nice BSOD,
More, the 0.16 is in purple (or red, I believe) in the bios
And in the bios, it indicates 1.16v for vcore...

I tested from +0.005 to +0.030, no boot
With 0.040 (1.040v in the bios), BSOD for Windows
With 0.050 (1.056v in the bios), BSOD for Windows

Thanks

Is this offset voltage or additional turbo voltage?
1.056 + .050 = 1.1v. Need more additional turbo voltage. If I'm understanding you correctly.
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Well.. Here is what I came up with: (4.5GHz 0.005 Offset Vcore 0.020 Turbo 2400MHz 70ºC) Too Hot! My previous Fixed OC was maxing 60ºC. Yes, I'm on air.
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CPU Level Up ………………………………………………………………. Disabled
BCLK Frequency ………………………………………………………….. 100.000
CPU Strap ……………………………………………………………………. Auto 100
ClockGen Full Reset ……………………………………………………. Enabled
CPU Core Ratio …………………………………………………………… Per Core
1-Core Ratio Limit ………………………………………………………. 45
2-Core Ratio Limit ………………………………………………………. 44
3-Core Ratio Limit ………………………………………………………. 44
4-Core Ratio Limit ………………………………………………………. 44
5-Core Ratio Limit ………………………………………………………. 43
6-Core Ratio Limit ………………………………………………………. 43
Internal PLL Overvoltage ……………………………………………. Enabled
DRAM Frequency ……………………………………………………….. DDR3-2400MHz
Xtreme Tweaking …………………………………………………….…. Enabled Disabled
EPU Power Saving Mode ……………………………………….……. Enabled disabled
EPU Settings ……………………………………………………………..… Auto
Rampage Tweak ………………………………………………………….. Mode 3
Latency Boundary ……………………………………………………….. Nearer Auto
Extreme OV ………………………………………………………….….…. Disabled
BLCK Skew …………………………………………………………….……. Auto
CPU VCORE Voltage ………………………………………..……….…. Offset Mode
Offset Mode Sign ………………………………………………………… +
CPU VCORE Offset Voltage …………………………………..……… 0.005
VTT CPU Voltage ……………………………………………..……..….. Auto (Currently 1.24+) like I said, 2400 ram makes this go high. set to like 1.13V
2nd VTTCPU Voltage ………………………………………..……….…. Auto (Currently 1.05+)
CPU VCCSA Voltage ………………………………………..………..... Manual
CPU VCCSA Manual Voltage ……………………..…………..……. 0.995
DRAM Voltage (CHA, CHB) ………………………………..…….…. 1.650
DRAM Voltage (CHC, CHD) ……………………………..……….…. 1.650
CPU PLL Voltage ……………………………………………..…..….…. Auto
PCH 1.1v Voltage ……………………………………………………….. Auto
Initial PLL Termination Voltage …………………………………… Auto
Eventual PLL Termination Voltage ……………………………… Auto
VTTDDR Voltage (CHA, CHB) ………………………………………. Auto
VTTDDR Voltage (CHC, CHD) ………………………………………. Auto
CPU PLL Termination ………………………………………………….. Auto EWnabled
CPU Spread Spectrum ………………………………………………… Auto MUST BE DISABLED
PCIE Spread Spectrum ………………………………………………... Auto MUST BE DISABLED
BCLK Recovery ……………………………………………………………. Enabled

CPU Load-Line Calibration ………………………………………….. Medium
CPU Current Capability ………………………………………………. Auto
CPU Voltage Frequency ……………………………………………… Auto
VRM Over Temperature Protection ……………………………. Auto
CPU Power Duty Control …………………………………………….. T.Probe
Vcore MOS volt. Control …………………………………………….. Auto
CPU Power Phase Control …………………………………………… Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum ………………………………………………… Enabled DISABLED
Current Inrush Inertia …………………………………………………. Auto
CPU VCORE Boot Up Voltage ………………………………………. Auto
VCCSA Load-Line Calibration ………………………………………. Auto
VCCSA Current Capability ……………………………………………. 100%
VCCSA Fixed Frequency ………………………………………………. 300
CPU VCCSA Boot Up Voltage ………………………………………. Auto
CPU VTT Switching Freq ……………………………………………… Auto
CPU VTT Over-Current Protection ………………………………. Auto
DRAM-AB Current Capability ………………………………………. 100% 110% or 120%
DRAM-AB Voltage Frequency ..……………………………………. Auto
DRAM-AB Phase Control …….………………………………………. Standard
DRAM-CD Current Capability ………………………………………. 100% 110% or 120% (for 2400 ram)
DRAM-CD Voltage Frequency ..……………………………………. Auto
DRAM-CD Phase Control …….………………………………………. Standard
PCH 1.1V Switching Freq ……………………………………………… Auto

Enhance Intel SpeedStep Technology …………………………… Enabled
Turbo Mode …………………………………………………………………. Enabled
Power Limit Control ……………………………………………………… Enabled
Long Duration Power Limit …………………………………………… Auto
Long Duration Maintained ……………………………………………. Auto
Short Duration Power Limit …………………………………………... Auto
Additional Turbo Voltage ………………………………………………. 0.020
CPU Core Current Limit …………………………………………………. Auto

Intel Adaptive Thermal Monitor ……………………………………. Enabled
Hyper-threading …………………………………………………………… Enabled
Active Processor Cores …………………………………………………. All
Limit CPUID Maximum …………………………………………………. Enabled
Execute Disable Bit ………………………………………………………. Disabled
Intel Virtualization Technology …………………………………….. Disabled

CPU C States …………………………………………………………………. Auto

Anti Surge Support ……………………………………………………….. Enabled
Shouldn't my VTT CPU Voltage be under 1.15V? It won't boot at anything lower then 1.24V. Should I be worried?

all the items i pointed out in your settings were set differently than the bios dumps I posted. you need to disable spreadspectrum.

You should first work on getting a stable CPU with Offset, then take the ram up to 2400. BTW - 16GB? how much ram are you using?
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guyys - start with this:

reset bios (clrcmos), post
set your boot priorities (disks)
set your ram timings and VDram voltage manually @ kit specs.(no XMP)
sleep states disabled (or auto)
cpu and pcie spreadspectrum disabled (change nothing else)
Now increase multiplier one step at a time until it will post but fails to load windows - this is your base for adding offset and turbo mV (will be like 40-44x for Ivy-E, SB-E and Sandy)


Turbo Auto -> Enabled (you should see "additional Turbo Voltage as a menu option). Some folks leave this on Auto, but then you loose control of the vcore ceiling
CPU LLC -> High (or medium depending on multiplier)
Manual mode OC
bclk = 100
strap = 100
Multiplier to "last value +1" that can post
Vcore to "Offset" and set +5 to +10mV (+0.005V)
Set Add Turbo to +10mV
post (but don't boot to windows yet)
Write down all the applied voltages (vtt and vsa also)
Boot to windows. If it fails, keep adding turbo until it boots to Win.
Run your preferred stability "regimen" add mV to turbo (or offset) as needed to reach your stability needs.
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i7 5960X i7 6950X Asus Rampage V Extreme 10 2 GTX Titan X Pascal 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
GSkill 3200c14 TZs 8x8GB @ 3400c13 Intel 750 NVMe 400GB 2x Plextor SSD 256 Raid 0 (Win 7) Samsung NVMe 950 Pro M.2 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Plextor 810 2x XSPC RX360 Koolance 380i D5 
CoolingOSOSOS
Aquaero 6 Windows 10 x64  Windows 7 Pro Linux Mint 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Seiki 50" 4K monitor (720P-2160i) 240-30Hz Das Keyboard Model S Pro Corsair AX1200 Case Labs SM8 
MouseAudio
Steelseries Rival Ultimate Ears TF10 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
8700K ASUS Maximus X Apex GTX 1080 2x8 GB G.Skill 4400c19 
Hard DriveCoolingOSCase
Samsung 960 Pro 360Rad + Chiller Win 10 HWBOT OBT 
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
7740X 7980XE ASUS Rampage Vi Apex 2x Nvidia Titan Xp SLi 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
G.Skill 3600c15 2x8GB kits Intel 900p WD Raptor 1T Plextor SSDs Raid 0 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
Plextor DVD/BR R/W (very) Custom Water Windows 10 Pro Windows 7 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
ASUS 144Hz Ducky Corsair 1500i Microcool Benchetto 101 
MouseAudio
Steelseries Rival Ultimate ears TF10s (IEMs) 
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CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
i7 5960X i7 6950X Asus Rampage V Extreme 10 2 GTX Titan X Pascal 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
GSkill 3200c14 TZs 8x8GB @ 3400c13 Intel 750 NVMe 400GB 2x Plextor SSD 256 Raid 0 (Win 7) Samsung NVMe 950 Pro M.2 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Plextor 810 2x XSPC RX360 Koolance 380i D5 
CoolingOSOSOS
Aquaero 6 Windows 10 x64  Windows 7 Pro Linux Mint 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Seiki 50" 4K monitor (720P-2160i) 240-30Hz Das Keyboard Model S Pro Corsair AX1200 Case Labs SM8 
MouseAudio
Steelseries Rival Ultimate Ears TF10 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
8700K ASUS Maximus X Apex GTX 1080 2x8 GB G.Skill 4400c19 
Hard DriveCoolingOSCase
Samsung 960 Pro 360Rad + Chiller Win 10 HWBOT OBT 
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
7740X 7980XE ASUS Rampage Vi Apex 2x Nvidia Titan Xp SLi 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
G.Skill 3600c15 2x8GB kits Intel 900p WD Raptor 1T Plextor SSDs Raid 0 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
Plextor DVD/BR R/W (very) Custom Water Windows 10 Pro Windows 7 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
ASUS 144Hz Ducky Corsair 1500i Microcool Benchetto 101 
MouseAudio
Steelseries Rival Ultimate ears TF10s (IEMs) 
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Looks like my replacement cpu is a bad one oc 4100mhz @ 1.328v I lost the lottery...
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