Originally Posted by Vagrant Storm
Originally Posted by sdlvx
No, it's not milking, it's because Intel has moved onto other markets and they don't care about HEDT anymore. They make products that are "just good enough" to get people to keep buying them as opposed to going AMD (at least for high end desktop).
Previously AMD would move in on HEDT platform and push Intel, but AMD is off chasing mobile and APU right now instead of HEDT.
It's really disappointing, we haven't see a really great HEDT CPU come out of AMD or Intel that blew the last generation apart since Sandy Bridge.
It's going to be interesting to see how 14nm clocks and if Intel can stem the maximum clockspeed regression (when overclocked, not stock) that they seem to keep doing to us every release in the name of power consumption.
It sure looks like Intel is talking up power consumption and graphics again, so I have a feeling they're going to leave us disappointed as usual.
To be honest I don't even know if I'd say that Sandy Bridge was that great of an improvement over Nahalem.
I've actually been hoping for this. The CPU development can slow down for a year or two and they can work on power usage and cost saving in the building process. Give software some time to catch up. It is kind of annoying for the server side of things though.
As a Nehalem owner even PD and SB were decent upgrades. I went PD because I needed the multi-thread and I don't regret it one bit.
The power consumption issue has nothing to do with the needs of HEDT users. Saving 15w on your CPU power consumption when you have a 275w graphics card kind of makes the CPU a moot point. Not to mention that by the time you overclock you're already looking at massive increases to power usage and temperature (on AMD or Intel).
Power consumption on HEDT is a red herring meant to distract from the fact that AMD and Intel (however mostly Intel since SB, although AMD sitting on PD for 2014 isn't much better) have been slowly giving us tiny improvements in performance.
Hate to use the old trope of a car analogy, but it's like having a sportscar that does 120mph and then the next, big update to the line up replaced that model with one that's 3% faster (123.6mph) and uses 15% less fuel.
The kind of person who is buying a sportscar of that price doesn't care about fuel economy, they'd be driving something else.
Another analogy I always make is imagine if AMD and Nvidia released new parts that were only 5% faster and then went "but look at all the power saving features!"
If GTX 880 was only 5% faster than GTX 780, still cost the same, and used 15% less power, everyone on this forum would be grabbing pitchforks saying AMD and Nvidia are doomed and the new products are complete failures.