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Hi,

Every year I think about upgrading my computer and this year I bought a SSD, I had to got a new HDD SATA3 and External USB3 HDD and my computer can't even can use them that well, because It don't have USB3 or Sata3, so I was thinking, it's time to get a new PC.

Since I have a PSU, graphic card that can still hold on to next year and I can borrow some 8GB ddr3 till I feel fine in spending some cash on gskill Ripjaws. I will only need a CPU and MATX board(I'm thinking in buying a Bitfenix Phenom, so it's Mini or Micro board).

I always try to choose what it's the best bang for the buck, but since there is so much hardware now, then the last time I searched for it, it's kinda hard to choose.
I was thinking in this:

H87M-PLUS
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/H87MPLUS/#overview

and

i5-4440
http://ark.intel.com/products/75038

I don't need overclock

Is there any better choices available?

Best regards
Edited by Archidelic - 11/21/13 at 3:12am
    
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You won't be able to overclock on the H87 Chipset or with the 4440. So you really need to decide whether you would like to have the option to overclock there or you definitely don't want to overclock at all.
Edited by VindalooJim - 11/21/13 at 3:03am
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Also what is your budget? Do you have any future plans to upgrade your computer after upgrading your CPU, motherboard and RAM? For example dual GPUs?
Edited by VindalooJim - 11/21/13 at 3:01am
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Originally Posted by VindalooJim View Post

Also what is your budget? Do you have any future plans to upgrade your computer after upgrading your CPU, motherboard and RAM? For example dual GPUs?

Sorry, if I want to upgrade i need to go with a Z87, right? Well, I don't realy think in overclock, so it's ok.

Well, my budget is around 260€. Future plans, is just getting G.Skill RipjawsX 2x4GB and wait a little to buy a single GPU, I don't play games on my pc that much.
Edited by Archidelic - 11/21/13 at 3:13am
    
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Quote:
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Sorry, if I want to upgrade i need to go with a Z87, right? Well, I don't realy think in overclock, so it's ok.

Well, my budget is around 260€. Future plans, is just getting G.Skill RipjawsX 2x4GB and wait a little to buy a single GPU, I don't play games on my pc that much.

Ok, on a £216 (€260) budget without the need for overclocking or dual GPUs I would suggest the following:

Gigabyte GA-H87M Micro ATX Motherboard

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4492#ov

Intel Core i5-4670

http://ark.intel.com/products/75047/
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The Gigabyte GA-H87M is cheaper than the ASUS H87M-PLUS in my country which is why I recommend it, however go for which ever one is cheaper in Portugal- both are good boards.
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Ok, on a £216 (€260) budget without the need for overclocking or dual GPUs I would suggest the following:

Gigabyte GA-H87M Micro ATX Motherboard

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4492#ov

Intel Core i5-4670

http://ark.intel.com/products/75047/

Thank you very much smile.gif

The processor seems to give a little more performance for the price. Just one question, why Gigabyte and not the Asus? Better build quality and components? The color scheme is more of my liking though =P
    
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You're welcome smile.gif

Simply because it is cheaper where I live, go for which ever one is cheaper in Portugal smile.gif. Both Gigabyte and ASUS make fantastic motherboards. I have to agree that I am not keen on the gold ASUS colour scheme.

The 4670 will give you significantly better performance than the 4440. Be aware that Haswell can run quite hot, so make sure you have decent airflow inside your case.
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You're welcome smile.gif

Simply because it is cheaper where I live, go for which ever one is cheaper in Portugal smile.gif. Both Gigabyte and ASUS make fantastic motherboards. I have to agree that I am not keen on the gold ASUS colour scheme.

The 4670 will give you significantly better performance than the 4440. Be aware that Haswell can run quite hot, so make sure you have decent airflow inside your case.



Oh thanks! Well,maybe I will go with the Asus one, since the supplier where I work can get Asus stuff, making them 30€ more cheaper =P Just one question, for 4€ of difference between the H87-E and H87-Plus, the last one is the way to go,right?

Hmm, the BITFENIX Phenom I am planing to buy is not a big case and I'm using a Hyper 212 EVO as aftermarket cooler, now I'm kinda afraid ^^;
http://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/products/chassis/phenom-micro-atx
    
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The 212 EVO is a great cooler, you will have no temperature issues with that as long as you have adequate airflow smile.gif. The 212 EVO will fit inside the BitFenix Phenom with no issues, so don't be afraid tongue.gif.

Whilst the BitFenix Phenom is not best suited for air cooling (it is more suited to an all-in-one watercooler such as the Corsair H60 etc) it will be fine as long as your cable management is tidy and not obstructing the airflow and you have a couple of case fans installed, AFAIK the Phenom has two 120mm case fans which are both exhaust, you will want to turn one of these around to act as an intake fan so you are bringing cool air in to the case whilst the other fan can remain as an exhaust fan extracting the hot air. Here is a good article to read: http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/bitfenix_phenom_m_itx_review/7

The only real advantage the H87M-PLUS has over the H87M-E is that it has Crossfire support. If you are not planning on getting 2 AMD graphics cards (which I would not recommend in a such a small case like the BitFenix Phenom) then I would save some money and go for the H87M-E.
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