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I have a budget gaming/school/autocad/solid works/media PC. My PC has replaced everything in my livingroom, I use it for everything from gaming now to watching movies and shows with the kids. I have 5 kids and no money but do want to upgrade my system slowly. So I have a few questions for you.

I have a AMD fx-8350 cpu, asus m5 a97 "le" r2.0, xfx dd hd 7870, corsair 55, Seagate 1 tb hhd x2, corsair xms 8gb ram, rosewill stallion 700w psu, inside a rosewill redbone case. All costed about $600 after windows, parts, keyboard/mouse, just everything said and done was about $600.

As far as my thoughts on upgrading components:
-case - its far to small, wont fit a decent radiator, its just far to limited
-mobo - its a le, 4 pin power, no vr cooling
-hhd - no ssd yet, and I have them in laptop and know theyre blazing fast
-gpu - its a mid-low end graphics, plays my games now but for how long

So 2 part question for you guys:
1) As far as saving and upgrading, which would make the most sense and in what order, as far as spending money and getting something from it. this build has been the best budget/performance I could find and got pretty much everything on a newegg combo for $500 after MIR. Not the parts I would've picked, but at a price point I couldn't even come close to.

2)I'm leaning towards mobo first and probably a sabertooth unless you guys can recommend a good mobo for overclocking that runs cheaper. I plan to OC and try and hit 5GHZ, will be getting custom liquid cooler eventually and don't plan to upgrade mobo 'again' after this.

But I also see hd 7870's going for $130 now down from $200, and realize theyre being phased out, so should I try and save quick and buy a 2nd gpu to sli while I can still get the card and cheap? or should I just wait for games to become unplayable on mine and then just get the best I can afford then? Mine now plays COD ghosts just fine on max, but for how long?

So if you guys could please just give me some input on what next steps to do, and keep in mind I wont be going out tonight and making any purchases, but would like to know which you think should be upgraded first, and/or what your other thoughts and opinions for me and my setup in general are.
post #2 of 8
Your Rosewill PSU is made by a OEM called Solytech

Its not really something that is very good so maybe a new PSU as well?
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post #3 of 8
Wait

Don't just upgrade a part here or there especially a motherboard. FM2+ and 1156 cpus will be out and much faster. I say enjoy your build and if you really need more power for gaming get a second 7870 or ebay your card and buy a better single card.
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Well, upgrading a part here and there was my main deciding factor to go with PC instead of Xbox and/or equivalents. I got my pc build based on price/budget, and there are some factors that, especially the motherboard, are limiting my full potential to enjoy. I really want to overclock, but mobo severely hinders that. But yes my pc does work, and I do enjoy it, and do realize every few months new parts come and I could never ask to stay up to date without dropping and wasting some serious cash. But problems with current build that wouldn't matter with time for the most part would be, mobo, case, hhd, gpu. I only add gpu as its on some very good sales, but I do really think that a mobo would be better upgraded first. I expect this cpu/setup to stay pretty good for the next probably 5 years. its not the best cpu, but it is and has some great potential and don't see games even up to my current pc potential hitting that for years to come. but my case sucks, mobo sucks, ssd is just awesome speeds.
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I realize the psu isn't the best, but it does have positive reviews, is rated well, and has a decent warrenty. I do see some very good psu's on newegg lately on awesome sales, $100-150 down to $50-75, but given that I might only have $100 in the next several months to spend on upgrades, is the psu difference really going to compare vs getting a mobo that can handle me/mychip/myexpectations, a bigger case to help with airflow or let me add/upgrade other components, a ssd that will boost performance, or another gpu to help max those fps in games?
post #6 of 8
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Originally Posted by dblkk View Post

I realize the psu isn't the best, but it does have positive reviews, is rated well, and has a decent warrenty. I do see some very good psu's on newegg lately on awesome sales, $100-150 down to $50-75, but given that I might only have $100 in the next several months to spend on upgrades, is the psu difference really going to compare vs getting a mobo that can handle me/mychip/myexpectations, a bigger case to help with airflow or let me add/upgrade other components, a ssd that will boost performance, or another gpu to help max those fps in games?

Newegg reviews are useless they well you nothing about how good something is

Unless everyone of those reviews has taken it apart and tested it

Let me ask it this way what if you upgrade everything and then your PSU kills it all because you did not upgrade that

All you need is a good 450 watts not a crappy 700 watts
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post #7 of 8
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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

Newegg reviews are useless they well you nothing about how good something is

Unless everyone of those reviews has taken it apart and tested it

Let me ask it this way what if you upgrade everything and then your PSU kills it all because you did not upgrade that

All you need is a good 450 watts not a crappy 700 watts

Yes, I do realize this is a chance. But then what if while I'm gaming for over an hour, my vr overheats on my mobo and burns up. Causing a pop, instant burn in the mobo card itself, and then could also easily short out everything connected to mobo.

I'm not trying to sound like an arse, im just trying to find out if I can come up with $100 for buying a great deal for an upgrade to a component on my pc, why you would recommend using that for replacing a 1 month old, 700w running at maybe 50%. I agree a corsair or another psu would/is a worthwhile upgrade, just kind of disagree with placement on list of upgrades. I think the psu is ok, but I don't know psu's and will def take your recommendation and add psu to my list. but honestly for me, my options are mobo, case, ssd, gpu, custom liquid cooling, and now psu. in that order.

Like I said not trying to argue, I agree with you as you seem to know psu's and I know next to nothing, and have now added psu to my list as before I didn't know it was bad. But am now really thinking this great pc barebones bundle was a complete bust.
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If you did not know Corsair does not make the units they sell

Nor does Rosewill and pretty much everyone else

What this means is a small no name brand can buy somethnig great and sell it

Also works the other way around a big brand name like Corsair can buy a big nasty turd and sell it (Corsair VS is such a series)

I dont think the Rosewill Stallion is the worst PSU ever made but i would not rate it as 700 watts

Maybe 500 watts on a good day if you are lucky
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