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How about not plugging in the Ethernet cable or allowing it to connect to your SECURED wireless network, you know like not putting in your password or not connecting with wps?

Seems simple enough wink.gif

What's the point of buying a smart TV if you don't connect it to the internet? That doesn't really solve the issue.

All new TV's are becoming "smart" whether we want them to be or not.

Example: I don't need/want a camera on my phone, yet they all seem to have one

If you don't need/want the features, but they have them by default, either disable them, (obviously not working in this scenario) or don't use them
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All new TV's are becoming "smart" whether we want them to be or not.

Example: I don't need/want a camera on my phone, yet they all seem to have one

If you don't need/want the features, but they have them by default, either disable them, (obviously not working in this scenario) or don't use them

No, they actually don't. As a matter of fact I just bought a new LG that isn't "smart." I didn't want it, so I didn't buy it. And just because someone DOES want smart features doesn't mean they should have to put up with a lack of privacy. That's just not right.
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They will all be smart TV's one day

I'm not saying that they should put up with the privacy issue, I'm saying that they have a choice. Not using the features is just a temporary solution until the issues are resolved. And I hope that it is resolved

Sorry for not explaining myself more clearly
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If you did this, you would be going to JAIL....  if a CEO does it, nothing happens..

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As posted in other duplicated thread ... The big picture here is to verify the files you play in your own network from a server (invasive DRM take a bow). This is just a test to see if people were watching. With the TPP coming into play they can make it law that all TV's and Monitors (which have network controls or even just HDMi as that can pass network too) must verfiy the content before allowing the video signal. It's as old as the sun and even happened back in the video tape days but its much more intrusive, its the equivalent of the VCR physically walking into your bookshelf and checking all your Tapes without asking and then refusing to play them !

The bigger question is: What happens to all the LG TV's that don't receive the so called patch currently installed in Cisco Units and Smart TV's used and in government / military / medical ??? they are sending out file name meta data aren't they seriously breaking the Law here .. i mean REALLY breaking the law?

What happens in future to smart TV's ? Does LG encrypt the data and so you never know what is leaving your home network they are networked computers with a display and no keyboard essentially giant laptops and how does a company , government check for this data when it becomes hidden by LG , Samsung etc.. ??

Looks like every new device even the most traditional of things the TV will need to have deep packet inspection checks before its approved for installation.
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How about not plugging in the Ethernet cable or allowing it to connect to your SECURED wireless network, you know like not putting in your password or not connecting with wps?

Seems simple enough wink.gif

My friend I can tell your not a security savvy tongue.gif


Its a great idea but what if you have an LG smart phone with GPS and Blue-tooth? When Samsung TV's ship with smart features they all come with wireless and therefore the ability to run an ad-hoc connection. How on earth would you know if your TV isn't transmitting silently to your phone? With a smart phone your effectively bridging a network and creating a new gateway out..

Secondly this guy who found this was in the UK using a UK TV and there are things like this on every BT broadband connection by default that you have to forcibly turn off http://www.btfon.com/

Thirdly You might have secure wireless but if your in street, flat with other open networks OR other people with Likewise smart phones then again its another (abeit slightly further away) Bridged GPS cellular network


So the Answer is YES Don't plug into Ethernet, YES disable the TV's features (in vain hope) , YES have secure wifi but.... NO you cant stop it broadcasting and connecting to other nearby networks if its programmed to be underhanded .. which it is !

So the only answer is to not buy a SMART TV with Camera, Mic or Network... So thats becoming harder. That's why this is so staggering to me, were literally only 2 real year 's into smart TV and they are already exploiting networks ?!

Finally then the real solution is to not buy a big TV but use a device without cameras or Mic's and controlled network using Linux...
Edited by Pip Boy - 11/23/13 at 5:33am
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Finally then the real solution is to not buy a big TV but use a device without cameras or Mic's and controlled network using Linux...

A Panasonic last gen IPS traditional TV, thanks.
   
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