Originally Posted by DzillaXx
I didn't see sony give extended warranties for those with disc read errors on first gen ps2's. Which is no doubt the second biggest console hardware problem we have faced.
Except it was still far smaller than the RRoD ever was.
Originally Posted by lacrossewacker
it was down to a lead-free soldering they had used (I believe it was a fairly new process); caused critical soldered joints on the motherboard to fail when the excessive heat from the GPU caused the motherboard to warp.
There's not much else to it. Either better ventilation would've solved it, or using the standard soldering techniques.
It's since been fixed -> costing Microsoft a billion dollars. Fearing another RROD scenario should be your last concern in regards to the Xbox One.
Or it was possibly due to the tiny GPU heatsink and lack of thermal diode in the GPU causing the GPU to overheat.
And it should never be your last concern, sure, MS will be acutely aware of the thermals of the XBO due to RRoD but what about (To pull something out of air here) if there's later a bug discovered that causes the OS to brick? Or hell, something that formats your HDD, etc...Plenty of scope to go wrong for any console regardless of manufacturer, past, etc because they're such complex machines.
Originally Posted by Archngamin
Some people hold grudges much MUCH longer than others apparently. RROD is a problem from 2005/6. Time for people to get over it.
RRoD still effects people to this day, I know a few who got it for the first time/for the first time in years when they played GTA V a bit too much...Not to mention, it hit over 50% of consoles at one point in an industry where failure rates of <2% are common.
Originally Posted by dlee7283
The 360 also had issues with its hynix ram chips coming loose because of the heat and weak solder from the pcb as well as the hdmi port controller messing up as well. It went well beyond the RROD. I have fixed many 360's and probably had to throw at least 8 away that would have cost more to fix than they were worth. To be fair they were usually the 2006-2007 models.
I think the One will be much better, but's lets call a spade a spade here. The 360 was an engineering mess.
Not to mention E74 that a lot of people have seemed to have forgotten...No matter how you spin it, the fat model 360s were not reliable machines. (I should know, I had 2 of them before I got a slim)