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They won't because no one currently can demonstrate how to get devs paid (which is a long complicated chicken or egg problem). I love Linux to death but I'm not optimistic that it will in any pure form compete with Windows as general users are just to enslaved/entrenched with Windows. Of course if Linux replaced Windows as the first OS that people were exposed to then there might be a chance. In the mean time with mobile (pads,phones) taking center stage for most consumers the whole subscription based software as a service model is probably going to take over and tradition desktop OSes are going to decline.

 

I'm not sure what you mean by developers getting paid. Do you mean to develop desktop applications that work on Linux or developing the actual kernel and desktop environment? If you meant the latter, it already happens. There's the Linux Foundation, Red Hat, Canonical, and other companies/organizations that pay developers to work on their flavor of the Linux desktop and contribute back to the community. 

 

Application developers will be paid the same no matter what platform they are coding on. 

 

What I was saying is that in the mobile space (tablets/smartphones) Linux is king. It outsells anything else in the market by a long shot. One reason being the low-cost of entry (Android is essentially free), the other being that from the outset they had support from the entire lineup (hardware ----> software ----> customers).

 

We're missing multiple levels of support on the desktop side of things in the Linux community, and if we have more big players in both software and hardware coming to desktop Linux, we're looking at a formula for dominance in all spaces (mobile, desktop, embedded, and server).

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I call BS. I can understand the move to Android because ARM is swimming in cash from the mobile sector, but I don't think ChromeOS is worth a damn. I've used one of the samsung chromebooks and it sucks. I'm not sure what its supposed to be.

The way I see it, Apple has invested in their own chips derived from ARM architecture, so Intel is out for now. Windows is still solid, and Android is almost all ARM. Maybe if they ramp up development on their Atom chips, but otherwise, I think Wintel will remain their main cash source(consumer grade) for a long time.
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I'm not sure what you mean by developers getting paid. Do you mean to develop desktop applications that work on Linux or developing the actual kernel and desktop environment? If you meant the latter, it already happens. There's the Linux Foundation, Red Hat, Canonical, and other companies/organizations that pay developers to work on their flavor of the Linux desktop and contribute back to the community. 

Application developers will be paid the same no matter what platform they are coding on. 

What I was saying is that in the mobile space (tablets/smartphones) Linux is king. It outsells anything else in the market by a long shot. One reason being the low-cost of entry (Android is essentially free), the other being that from the outset they had support from the entire lineup (hardware ----> software ----> customers).

We're missing multiple levels of support on the desktop side of things in the Linux community, and if we have more big players in both software and hardware coming to desktop Linux, we're looking at a formula for dominance in all spaces (mobile, desktop, embedded, and server).

Yes I'm talking app devs getting paid...and they seem scared of the OS. The other part is hardware support and no where is it more obvious how much the hardware makers don't care for Linux than in the world of ARM or even mobile(Transformer book T100 anyone?). Trying to get Linux to work on something like the Samsung Exynos A15 quads is not fun.Linux isn't exactly king...it's just a kernel and that kernel is being used by others to make their variants kings. Namely that would be Android.

As I said, there's too much FUD about Linux out there (you can see it by the fact that a forum full of techies like this one has so few people who use it). SteamOS from what I can tell is just another Android in principle...they'll take the kernel but they're going to close down things (likely not in the first release but after as they'll get pressure from devs like Sony did when people used OtherOS to "pirate" things). This is also why Google doesn't let you have root or similar control of your phone...they don't want you in control which goes against the whole point of choosing (Gnu/)Linux.
     
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