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Don't understand what you're going to target with that. Autodesk, Adobe, and Sony all primarily develop workstation tools. Things like tablets and gimmicky laptops are consumer-grade products. Photoshop and AutoCAD won't help you sell those.

Its all about compiler and optimization. Photoshop and AutoDesk products have traditionally been optimizing for Intel architectures, it doesn't mean AMD Quad Cores have been worthless for those apps.
And I agree with what geoexile said.
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So, for the second time I ask. What exactly are you trying to tell us here?

That AMD, in general, needs to focus more on cooperating with partners. I'm not distinguishing between consumer and enterprise sectors.

And most people certainly do not use the aforementioned software solely on workstations. Especially since those software are widely pirated, and some are even offered for free under restriction (Autodesk).
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AMD's game bundle = BF4 ONLY for all R9 270 and up (and carried out terribly , since existing boxes don't have the code)
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The long and short story is that this bundle is not going to be distributed like previous bundles. The Never Settle bundles were structured such that retailers were provided with vouchers and threw them in with all qualifying products. However with the Battlefield 4 bundle inclusion will not be universal; it will be up to the retailers and board partners to decide which cards to include the bundle with. Which as of right now is only a couple of XFX cards over at Newegg.

AMD's game bundle for R7-260X = Never settle Silver

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7511/amd-announces-new-game-bundles-for-radeon-r7-260x-above

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Anyone that bought a Powercolor / Club3D / VTX3D / XFX R9 290X probably has a sour taste since the Powercolor / CLub3D / VTX3D /XFX R9 290 models are unlocking to R9 290X
Edited by AlphaC - 11/23/13 at 6:47pm
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Its all about compiler and optimization. Photoshop and AutoDesk products have traditionally been optimizing for Intel architectures, it doesn't mean AMD Quad Cores have been worthless for those apps.

http://hsafoundation.com/

Sony is already part of it. To be more specific, it is unlikely that AutoCAD will associate itself with AMD. Most workstations simply work Nvidia and Intel hardware. I'd love to see every developer out there to side with AMD but it's unlikely. HSA is a stake towards the future, but it's just that. It has very little value as of right now.

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And I agree with what geoexile said.

I've asked him to clarify two times. I also broke down his post in detail showing why it's a blanket general post that is unclear with no subject that comes to my mind. He has yet to elaborate.

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That AMD, in general, needs to focus more on cooperating with partners.

That sounds great but AMD is already doing that. There are a number of reasons why some refuse to partner up with them. Personally I'd be careful of associating myself with AMD as well.
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I'm not distinguishing between consumer and enterprise sectors.
But there is a big difference. Especially concerning OEMs.
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And most people certainly do not use the aforementioned software solely on workstations. Especially since those software are widely pirated, and some are even offered for free under restriction (Autodesk).

Photoshop nor AutoCAD require a huge amount of processing power for casual and light use. I would know as I know how to use both. Yes, some things do take an obscenely long amount of time but not in a way as to make it un-usuable. Video transcoding for example is a complete pain and extremely time-consuming at times.I doubt however, that a significant amount of PC users uses those.

The point is, that software will not be a selling point in consumer devices, but I do agree that it is extremely useful to have both of those if you want to advertise it to power users, and professional businesses.
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HanSomPa:
AMD's game bundle = BF4 ONLY for all R9 270 and up (and carried out terribly , since existing boxes don't have the code)

Well, that does blow. tongue.gif
Edited by HanSomPa - 11/23/13 at 6:53pm
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http://hsafoundation.com/

Sony is already part of it. To be more specific, it is unlikely that AutoCAD will associate itself with AMD. Most workstations simply work Nvidia and Intel hardware. I'd love to see every developer out there to side with AMD but it's unlikely. HSA is a stake towards the future, but it's just that. It has very little value as of right now.

Specifically AutoCAD seems to be not supporting OpenCL, it depends on OpenGL where Nvidia shines.
AMD sucks at higher end OpenGL level, but its AMD's problem because they haven't been able to refine their OpenGL Driver since a long time.

No one is talking about the value of "right now". As the article is about the future, HSA is about the future, then whats the problem. Its very likely they'll support it in future as many autodesk products have been supporting OpenCL which you could define as a pre HSA feature. You broke down your own post by some of your own lines. Also in computing, major changes over time happen every year (imo), its not like bike and car technologies (again imo).


"imo" doesn't always mean I am wrong though. biggrin.gif
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