Originally Posted by Cyro999
In a $1200 laptop, i think people will prioritize haswell/broadwell on 22/14nm, it's a bit high budget for a part that performs worse (and has to win on value)
I'd take a A10 5750M with HD8970m over a i5/i7 with a GTX 760m (Same price locally, around AU$1550 for otherwise very similar MSI laptops) because in gaming, that AMD one will be faster most of the time and elsewhere, I'm probably not going to notice the difference.
Originally Posted by Alatar
SB-E, IB-E and upcoming Haswell-E.
Besides the new athlon chips including the X4 760BE that I have are not pure CPUs. They're just Trinity/richland with the igpu disabled. Kinda like the 2550K back in the day.
I knew I was forgetting some chips.
And yes, the Athlons are technically APUs but due to the iGPU being disabled it's not an APU.
Originally Posted by SpeedyVT
Skyrim is written in x87. Horrible............stack overflow.
BF3 uses as many threads available, 4770k has eight threads.
The 7970 is a terrible card to compare with as it's neither the one someone would put in an APU computer and it's totally bottlenecking the PCIE slot. Mobos for Richland only have PCIE 2.0, and 4770k 3.0. For a real comparison you'd have to do a midrange card.
And? Skyrim's still a real game and a game that plenty of people play. The fact it's x87 and more CPU dependent than it would be if they'd optimized it is kinda irrelevant, in a perfect world we'd use compilers without bias and start using new instructions as soon as CPUs started supporting them at which point AMD wouldn't be as far behind Intel as they are now, but it's not a perfect world and we're stuck with what we have.
And no, not a single GPU bottlenecks a PCIe 2.0 16x slot, I'm fairly certain there's benchmarks showing a 8x PCIe 2.0 slot doesn't bottleneck a HD7970 and that even only a 4x slot bottlenecks it by ~10% or so.Edited by Brutuz - 11/25/13 at 2:12pm