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Hey!

I'm interested in watercooling my computer and want a bit of inspiration and help with components to purchase.

Firstly, I am only going to be watercooling my CPU at this current time because my MSI Twin Frozr 6870 is fairly outdated but I don't feel the immediate need to upgrade to R290 or GTX 780 at this current moment (the 6870 is still performing adequately for my gaming needs). I want the ability to incorporate an R290 or GTX 780 in the coming months or the successor of these cards (GTX 800 and the AMD equivalent). I am also still running a 2500k (I got a nice piece of silicon) and will most likely stay on Sandy Bridge until Broadwell is released.

Secondly, I'll be upgrading my case to the Corsair 750D from the HAF 922. I currently have the typical 'RED LEDS EVERYWHERE' scheme that so many people have, and would like to shift away from that (or perhaps make it more 'professional' or 'classy'). I'd like to run a 360mm rad in top and when I buy a new card and include it in the loop,add an additional 240mm rad in the bottom of the 750D.

I'm aiming for a price of around $400~ AUD (not including the 240mm radiator and the GPU block when I upgrade in the future) and will be using: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=207_160 to buy my components as it's essentially the best website to buy watercooling parts in Australia.

I'd love help on all components tbh as I lack the experience to really decide on which components would suit for this kind of build.

What OD and ID should I be looking at buying? (whats the standard?)
What radiators should I buy? (XSPC look good for the price, but the alphacool rads look really visually sharp. is there major performance difference between brand rads?)
What pump and radiator would work for my loop (including the fact I'll be adding in a R290 or GTX 780 down the line)?
What are some good fans to use?

I also would love inspiration on the 'scheme' of the build within the Corsair 750D. I'm really loving this kind of scheme but please recommend or show me other colour schemes that I could go with. I'm a giant fan of white LEDs and clear tubing.

Thanks so much guys! smile.gif
Edited by Hot Fuzz - 11/25/13 at 7:07am
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Have you checked the watercooling guide? Most questions can be answered there. There is really no standard for ID/OD tubing it's your choice. I went with G 1/4" threads with 1/2" barbs using 7/16" ID tubing to create a tighter seal for no leaks. But you can still go with 1/2" barbs with 1/2" ID tubing if you want to. Personally I regret not going with one of the more expensive radiators (Feser TFC) at the time that was much better in quality and in the paint job. I bought an XSPC radiator when it first appeared to market and the paint job was really bad. I put masking tape on part of the radiator so it wouldn't scratch up the inside of my case and when I took it off the cheapish paint came right off with it. The paint job was really badly done, sure I saved some money but I also ended up with a shoddy paint job. That's my experience with XSPC.

Performance of rads will depend on the fin density and the speed of the fans you use. You can make most radiators perform well if you use high speed Delta fans or some Panaflos if you can accept the noise levels. For fans I've seen most people use Gentle Typhoons and Corsair. Not quite sure on the popularity of Yate Loons still but there used to be a problem with quality with the Yate Loons depending on where you bought them. Personally I'd stick with the Gentle Typhoons for the quietness but they cost like $15 per a fan which is pretty expensive.
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Have you checked the watercooling guide? Most questions can be answered there. There is really no standard for ID/OD tubing it's your choice. I went with G 1/4" threads with 1/2" barbs using 7/16" ID tubing to create a tighter seal for no leaks. But you can still go with 1/2" barbs with 1/2" ID tubing if you want to. Personally I regret not going with one of the more expensive radiators (Feser TFC) at the time that was much better in quality and in the paint job. I bought an XSPC radiator when it first appeared to market and the paint job was really bad. I put masking tape on part of the radiator so it wouldn't scratch up the inside of my case and when I took it off the cheapish paint came right off with it. The paint job was really badly done, sure I saved some money but I also ended up with a shoddy paint job. That's my experience with XSPC.

Performance of rads will depend on the fin density and the speed of the fans you use. You can make most radiators perform well if you use high speed Delta fans or some Panaflos if you can accept the noise levels. For fans I've seen most people use Gentle Typhoons and Corsair. Not quite sure on the popularity of Yate Loons still but there used to be a problem with quality with the Yate Loons depending on where you bought them. Personally I'd stick with the Gentle Typhoons for the quietness but they cost like $15 per a fan which is pretty expensive.

Yeah I've looked over some of the watercooling threads and they are very helpful, though I thought asking some further questions would just help more with finding exactly what I needed.

What XSPC rad did you have that experience with? I'm looking for components that will actually 'last' and be usable in future builds and revisions I do as I am a university student and don't have the money to keep forking out on new parts every time I upgrade. tongue.gif So although I dont want to spend a fortune like some people do on their watercooling builds, I am looking for quality parts.

In regards to rads then, is their a comparable difference between the Alphacool UT60 and the XT45 due to fin density? I'm not sure if the UT60 can fit well enough into a 750D, so I think I could only go down the XT45 route. From what I've read so far, everyone seems to endorse Alphacools rad range, is this due to high quality? For fans I am looking for fans 'fairly' quiet as I'm currently running cheap LED and stock case fans that are quite loud and would love to get away from that and be slightly more 'silent'. Are Gelid Slients any good as well? Are there fans under $15 worth looking at other than Yate Loons (dont really like the look of them)? I cant find gentle typhoons for $15 unfortunately, most are over $20.

Thanks for the help so far. smile.gif
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Here is some inspiration:



Best of luck m8
    
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venture over to the intel/amd build log forum on here. that's all the inspiration you will need ;-)


for xspc rads, im using the ax series in my build. the fin density is a bit heavier, but they are thinner which was my main concern. They perform quite well in my opinion, and an 1850 gentle typhoon pushes over the ax series cores perfectly fine, and can even be throttled down slightly to around 60-75% with a fan controller if wanted to decrease noise. Regarding the paint job on the rads, I had 0 complaints about shoddy paint on the fins or rad body, and i ordered 4 x 480 rads in white with black painted fins.

As anoob said, many of your questions can be answered in the watercooling guide.
     
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Here is some inspiration:



Best of luck m8

Thanks man. <3
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venture over to the intel/amd build log forum on here. that's all the inspiration you will need ;-)


for xspc rads, im using the ax series in my build. the fin density is a bit heavier, but they are thinner which was my main concern. They perform quite well in my opinion, and an 1850 gentle typhoon pushes over the ax series cores perfectly fine, and can even be throttled down slightly to around 60-75% with a fan controller if wanted to decrease noise. Regarding the paint job on the rads, I had 0 complaints about shoddy paint on the fins or rad body, and i ordered 4 x 480 rads in white with black painted fins.

As anoob said, many of your questions can be answered in the watercooling guide.

Just have to say you're No Salary Cap v2 build is amazing and is giving me some great inspiration for my own(although I dont have your kind of money to spend on watercooling or general computer components). So the higher range of xspc rads are good build quality wise, how about the lower end EX series do you have any experience on those? The AX series is similar in price to the alphacool nexxos rads and I think i'd just go with the nexxos range.

In regards to pumps from what I'm reading the D5 seems like the best overall pump for the average watercooling loop. Are there any differences between the EK D5, Koolance PMP-450/450-S and the XSPC D5? Is the XSPC Acetal Top any good as well?

I'd really like to get this kind of clear tubing with blue LED (or white LEDs actually) kind of theme going on: http://i.imgur.com/bXjTAEn.jpg. Are they simply using clear tubing with blue LEDs though? Are there any decent LED fans worth using for rad fans or should I stick with gentle typhoons/SP-120s?

Thanks for all the help so far.
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