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I'm not entirely surprised. There just isn't much money to be made in this industry. Competition is cut-throat, margins are slim to none, and with as fast as technology moves, getting stuck with old and low-demand inventory is a constant problem.

Companies like us, who cater to enthusiasts, have it even harder. Face it - you're a picky bunch When chipset X comes out, we all rave and rush out to buy it. So, DFI makes a million of them to meet demand. 2 weeks later, chipset Y comes out... and demand for X is all but gone. Now DFI is stuck with a ton of boards that nobody wants.

The enthusiast market is a double edged sword - you guys spend, BY FAR, more per person on computer hardware than any other private market segment, but you're also the most fickle. The "hot item" changes daily, so it's very hard to how much of any given product to produce/buy.

Thus, it's extremely hard for any company to try to focus on that market, and I think this is likely a large factor with any problems DFI is having.
Bingo. a fast moving market along w/ greedy people = companies tanking.
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post #52 of 220
What Tankguys says is true, but I think what other people have said is also true.

DFI went out to make a name for themselves by releasing ultimate enthusiasts boards, which have more settings than anyone could ever need. They got rave reviews from magazines because they offer more than what any other board will offer, and because DFI could spend timing setting up the individual systems. Enthusiasts loved the boards because they could get massive overclockers, and the fact that they can take days to set up properly was forgotten.

Therefore, newer builders then wanted to try and bought them. DFI's "Auto" setting is shocking, and with so many leaving it on this caused great trouble.

Add to this the fact DFI was and is rushing out boards (i.e. the RDX200CF-DR) without obviously testing them properly with as much hardware as they should to meet demand for Crossfire and it was always going to go wrong
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post #53 of 220
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Add to this the fact DFI was and is rushing out boards (i.e. the RDX200CF-DR) without obviously testing them properly with as much hardware as they should to meet demand for Crossfire and it was always going to go wrong
Rushing out products was definitely a problem too. They had a very rough time with new launches. I think, however, that the rush has much to do with what I mentioned before - if they start sinking a bunch of time/money into developing a great new board for chipset X, but they take a long time to test and work it out completely, chipset Y may be released before they even start selling the boards with X. So, there's a lot of pressure to get them out as quick as possible, for better or worse.

It's not as much of an issue with other manufacturers, who basically just tweak a reference design and slap on some custom heatsinks. I think that ultimately DFI's issue is that it's very hard to put out high quality
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post #54 of 220
when you have a reputable name like DFI, you can get away w/ selling crap because people will buy it and expect more.......
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This is a real letdown. I just paid for an expert board and I haven't recieved it yet along with its many fustrations. And with the main support gone who is to help me? Some dude who knows nothing about my OCing needs? So am I basically on my on, to figure out how to get my board to work with my system? Man with DFI street down it worries me to the extreme, I sure hope it is just temporary and not permanent. Dang this is scary, I just paid 150 dollars expecting big overclocking fun and then BAM it hits me, my main source for help is gone, and that leaves me in big trouble. I have a feeling that DFI will be lacking in the profits and the only people that will be buy it are hard core overclockers that are asking for a lot of trouble. Well enough of my talking, you guys will be here to help me in my troubles with my new board when I get it right? Dang I don't know how to describe how I feel right now.....

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PM me about your board, man, I'll do my best to help.
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PM me about your board, man, I'll do my best to help.
thanks man I will pm you if I need help, how are the manuals for these boards? it sounds like the manuals are terrible. I will try my best to get it going with my knowledge, but something tells me I will get hung up somewhere! Thanks Ihatethedukes your help will be apricieated!

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You can PM me too if you want Theres plenty of help on other forums.

The manuals are sometimes OK, mines a bit sparse but you can pick a lot up on the net.

One good thing about them being unstable - you don't worry about accident restarts like when you pull one cable and your PSU cable comes out, cos its bound to be the board so you shouldn't worry lol
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thanks man I will pm you if I need help, how are the manuals for these boards? it sounds like the manuals are terrible. I will try my best to get it going with my knowledge, but something tells me I will get hung up somewhere! Thanks Ihatethedukes your help will be apricieated!

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The Age Of Useful Manuals is long gone. I don't even know why they bother to include them in the first place. Just post your questions here; some of us are like walking manuals already.
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lol i've owned my DFI board for a week and already get to RMA it =/ my Ultra-D board's PCI-e port 1 quit working and the LAN port acts like it keeps on disconnecting and reconnecting. DFI frustrations FTW!
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