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Hey, I'm new on here. I'm looking to build a new PC, mainly for game development. I'm a one-man-band here, taking that I am going to be doing my next project entirely by myself (3D Modelling/Animation, Programming, Level-Editing, etc.). I have an idea of what parts I want to get, but I'm open for suggestions/advice.

Main software that it needs to be able to run (efficiently): Unreal Development Kit (DX11), Adobe Photoshop CS6, Autodesk 3DS Max 2013, etc.

I will also be using the PC for gaming and web-browsing, but game development is the main concern.

My budget is around $3,000-ish. I want an AMD processor and GPU, but nothing is really set in stone right now.

Here are the parts I'm considering:

Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl/No Window)
Power Supply: Cooler Master v1000 (Fully-Modular, 1000w, Gold-Certified)
Motherboard: Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z (AM3+, 990FX)
Processor: AMD FX-8350 (8-Core, 4.0GHz)
CPU Cooling: Corsair Hydro H100i (Self-Contained Liquid Cooling, 240mm Radiator)
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro 32GB (4x8GB) 1600MHz (9-9-9-24)
Graphics: 2-way Crossfire XFX Double D Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition (2GB GDDR5 256-bit, 1000MHz Core Clock)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Velociraptor 1TB (SATA III, 64MB Cache, 10k RPM)
Optical Drive: Asus 24x DVD Burner (DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS)
Monitors: (x2) Asus 24-Inch LED-Lit IPS Professional Graphics Monitor (1920x1200, 6ms GTG)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K95 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard (Cherry MX Red)
Mouse: Mad Catz R.A.T. 7 (6400 dpi)
Mouse Pad: Razer Vespula (Dual-Sided, Wrist Rest, 12.61"x10.24")
Speakers: Logitech Z623 (2.1-Channels, THX-Certified, 200w)
Headset: Corsair Vengeance 2100 Wireless Dolby 7.1 Gaming Headset
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit System Builder OEM

What do you guys think?
post #2 of 9
1000W seems a bit overkill for a pair of 7870s. 750W would be enough.
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Looks like you have a decent budget to work with. Throw a SSD in there.
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That will make a very nice rig smile.gif I agree, get an SSD (Samsung 840 Pro) for the OS/Apps and use that VR for data. It'll be insanely fast.
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Okay, I have looked at some SSDs previously. The Samsung 840 Pro Series seemed very appealing. Maybe I will end up going with a 128GB 840 Pro for the OS and the main programs I will be running. Would you suggest buying two and putting them in RAID 1 if I can afford it?
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Nahhh, get a 256gb intead and just image the SSD to your VR, don't mess with RAID for simplicity's sake.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by <({D34TH})> View Post

1000W seems a bit overkill for a pair of 7870s. 750W would be enough.

700 watts will be enough

i could run 2 7950's with an overclocked cpu on a 750 watts PSU
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Why two 7870's? Why not a 7990 or something truly beastly. Or one of the new R9 290X cards, or two? I feel like I am missing something here, but for a 3000+ budget the GPU selection seems off. Also, the WD VR is, imo, not worth the money. Especially, with SSD's dropping in price and cyber monday deals coming up. Within this budget a 512GB SSD is something that I would suggest, or two smaller SSD's if you feel so inclined. Then just pair that with a few Seagate Barracudas and you are set on storage. You could also get away with a smaller PSU, 850W is the most I would say, but like stated before, you could get away with 700W. Cheers.

So, I had the time to throw together a build. Mostly the same as what was already put down since none of it was bad. But, I threw in some SSD's and dual GPU's in the form of the R9 290. Also, I threw in a different PSU. I could not find the mouse pad on PCPartPicker. We will call this build suggestion food for thought and I enjoy putting things together on PCPartPicker. Over budget, but there was a plus sign at the end...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($192.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.93 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($214.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($359.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($82.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($406.13 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($406.13 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.98 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($163.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($82.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Asus PA248Q 24.1" Monitor ($309.58 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus PA248Q 24.1" Monitor ($309.58 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K95 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
Mouse: Mad Catz R.A.T. 7 Wired Laser Mouse ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Speakers: Logitech Z623 200W 2.1ch Speakers ($98.99 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Corsair Vengeance 2100 7.1 Channel Headset ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $3595.18
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-25 23:49 EST-0500)

The only thing I am not sure about is the GPU options. If you stick with the two 7870's then that will significantly decrease the budget posted in this build. I also think that those Logitech speakers are way too base heavy and that $100 could be spent on different 2.1 speakers that would sound better. I am no audio expert though.
Edited by boxwunder13 - 11/25/13 at 8:53pm
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Why two 7870's? Why not a 7990 or something truly beastly. Or one of the new R9 290X cards, or two? I feel like I am missing something here, but for a 3000+ budget the GPU selection seems off. Also, the WD VR is, imo, not worth the money. Especially, with SSD's dropping in price and cyber monday deals coming up. Within this budget a 512GB SSD is something that I would suggest, or two smaller SSD's if you feel so inclined. Then just pair that with a few Seagate Barracudas and you are set on storage. You could also get away with a smaller PSU, 850W is the most I would say, but like stated before, you could get away with 700W. Cheers.

So, I had the time to throw together a build. Mostly the same as what was already put down since none of it was bad. But, I threw in some SSD's and dual GPU's in the form of the R9 290. Also, I threw in a different PSU. I could not find the mouse pad on PCPartPicker. We will call this build suggestion food for thought and I enjoy putting things together on PCPartPicker. Over budget, but there was a plus sign at the end...

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CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($192.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.93 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($214.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($359.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($82.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($406.13 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($406.13 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.98 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($163.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($82.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Asus PA248Q 24.1" Monitor ($309.58 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus PA248Q 24.1" Monitor ($309.58 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K95 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
Mouse: Mad Catz R.A.T. 7 Wired Laser Mouse ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Speakers: Logitech Z623 200W 2.1ch Speakers ($98.99 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Corsair Vengeance 2100 7.1 Channel Headset ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $3595.18
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-25 23:49 EST-0500)

The only thing I am not sure about is the GPU options. If you stick with the two 7870's then that will significantly decrease the budget posted in this build. I also think that those Logitech speakers are way too base heavy and that $100 could be spent on different 2.1 speakers that would sound better. I am no audio expert though.

2 290's will be a huge bottleneck with a 8350
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