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For wireless in churches, I love to recommend Ubiquiti UniFi products, which support 802.1x.

Even though 2 Essential licenses would be the same cost as a Standard license, you wouldn't have to deal with CALs. If you didn't mind paying a little more, you could also consider going with Server 2012 R2 Standard and running Hyper-V on your server, and set up 2 Server 2012 R2 Standard VMs. You could do file sharing from your Hyper-V host, one VM for AD DS/DNS/DHCP, and the other VM for NPS/RRAS/RA/etc. You could do concurrent user CALs, depending on how many users you expect to be using the functions at the same time. If you did go with this, I would highly recommend RD Gateway instead of VPN/RDP, if RDP is the only reason they want on the domain. If they need to transfer files from their personal device to a church device, it may not be an ideal solution.

And I just realized that I haven't mentioned anything about non-profit licensing (assuming your church is non-profit). Server 2012 Standard (Non-Profit License) is around $232, where as Server 2012 Datacenter (Non-Profit) runs around $1300. If you could spend $1300, you could install Datacenter on a C1100 and create as many Server 2012 VMs as you wanted, with no other license concerns. If that's too much, it would take 2 Server 2012 Standard licenses for a Dell C1100, so still $464 for the host OS and 2 Server 2012 guests.

Non-profit RDS CALs are ~$23/ea, with a minimum of 5. Assuming church staff is less than 10, $230 for 10 RDS CAL that will more than cover what you need. Server 2012 CALs are around $7 for Non-Profits, but I don't really know the difference between Server CALs and RDS Cals.

http://www.tech-crawl.com/collections/discounted-microsoft-non-profit-licensing
http://www.genesis-technologies.com/cart/Microsoft_Non_Profit_c274/

Holy cow! Thanks! Non-Profit licensing is awesome. We are definitely a 501(c)3 organization so that's awesome!

Also, UniFi networks.... where have you been all my life? That's a superb value for the money. Does the controller software cost anything to purchase? Or does it have an annual licensing fee?

It's weird now that Datacenter, with non-profit licensing, is almost within budget... redface.gif
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Holy cow! Thanks! Non-Profit licensing is awesome. We are definitely a 501(c)3 organization so that's awesome!

Also, UniFi networks.... where have you been all my life? That's a superb value for the money. Does the controller software cost anything to purchase? Or does it have an annual licensing fee?

It's weird now that Datacenter, with non-profit licensing, is almost within budget... redface.gif

With UniFi products (like all Ubiquti products) you only pay for the hardware. Controller software is free, no annual maintenance, no support costs, nothing. Also, there is no "paid features", so you indeed do get it all for free. I've designed and put UniFi systems in for at least 10 small business around here, ranging from 2 APs to 25 APs. Awesome product, and works great.
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With UniFi products (like all Ubiquti products) you only pay for the hardware. Controller software is free, no annual maintenance, no support costs, nothing. Also, there is no "paid features", so you indeed do get it all for free. I've designed and put UniFi systems in for at least 10 small business around here, ranging from 2 APs to 25 APs. Awesome product, and works great.

That is simply awesome. Wow. What a great value for the money. I hate payments. I would rather pay it all up front. The thought of my equipment just not working a year from now because I didn't pay the support cost just bugs me. UniFi it is. smile.gif

And their 802.3 routers kick some serious butt too. Might not have to VM a firewall if the one on board that critter will do the job.

Awesome stuff! You guys have really helped me think through this project.
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Okay, so I have bought myself some C1100's.

Now to install the OS.... When I boot from USB, it gets to the Windows Server 2012 boot and install screen, but the software can't see any of the four installed RE4 hard drives... frown.gif

I have heard that I may A> need to put the SATA drivers on the USB installer stick or B> update the BIOS. Or that I need to configure the RAID setup, which I don't even see an F? key to do at boot. Or in the BIOS.

Annnnd I'm really not sure how to do either of these. I get the idea of loading the drivers onto the stick, but I"m not sure which drivers to pick. And also, I haven't the slightest clue on how to update the BIOS.

I'm new to the server realm I guess. I can do all this on pre-built and consumer/client systems, but this C1100 has me a bit miffed.
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Okay, so I have bought myself some C1100's.

Now to install the OS.... When I boot from USB, it gets to the Windows Server 2012 boot and install screen, but the software can't see any of the four installed RE4 hard drives... frown.gif

I have heard that I may A> need to put the SATA drivers on the USB installer stick or B> update the BIOS. Or that I need to configure the RAID setup, which I don't even see an F? key to do at boot. Or in the BIOS.

Annnnd I'm really not sure how to do either of these. I get the idea of loading the drivers onto the stick, but I"m not sure which drivers to pick. And also, I haven't the slightest clue on how to update the BIOS.

I'm new to the server realm I guess. I can do all this on pre-built and consumer/client systems, but this C1100 has me a bit miffed.

There is no RAID controller, so there is no RAID setup that needs to be configured. Pull all drives out but one. Once the OS is installed, you can add your other drives.

I recommend upgrading the BIOS now before you have anything loaded (i.e., data) on the box, just in case. Here is where you can get the BIOS update:
http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/555/DriverDetails/Product/poweredge-c1100?driverId=J055V&osCode=WS8R2&fileId=3328159733&languageCode=EN&categoryId=BI

And the instructions are below. You may have to create the DOS flash drive, and then copy over the BIOS file. This should help with creating the flash drive (bootable DOS):
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/46707-ms-dos-bootable-flash-drive-create.html

After updating the BIOS, and with only 1 drive installed, see what happens. You should see a solid green light on the front of the harddrive tray, which confirms that there is power to the drive. You should also be able to hear the drive spinning up (assuming you aren't deaf, and that you get close enough to where the drive is installed).

Another thought, you can try before updating the BIOS. Go into the BIOS setup and reset everything to the factory default (I'm thinking it's F5, once in the BIOS? -- It should say somewhere how to reset it).

Good luck.
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There is no RAID controller, so there is no RAID setup that needs to be configured. Pull all drives out but one. Once the OS is installed, you can add your other drives.

I recommend upgrading the BIOS now before you have anything loaded (i.e., data) on the box, just in case. Here is where you can get the BIOS update:
http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/555/DriverDetails/Product/poweredge-c1100?driverId=J055V&osCode=WS8R2&fileId=3328159733&languageCode=EN&categoryId=BI

And the instructions are below. You may have to create the DOS flash drive, and then copy over the BIOS file. This should help with creating the flash drive (bootable DOS):
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/46707-ms-dos-bootable-flash-drive-create.html

After updating the BIOS, and with only 1 drive installed, see what happens. You should see a solid green light on the front of the harddrive tray, which confirms that there is power to the drive. You should also be able to hear the drive spinning up (assuming you aren't deaf, and that you get close enough to where the drive is installed).

Another thought, you can try before updating the BIOS. Go into the BIOS setup and reset everything to the factory default (I'm thinking it's F5, once in the BIOS? -- It should say somewhere how to reset it).

Good luck.

Factory default reset did it! And CTRL+I got me into the Intel RAID controller manager thingamabob. I know it doesn't qualify as a "true" RAID controller, but it ought to work alright for my needs.

Thanks so much for your help!
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Factory default reset did it! And CTRL+I got me into the Intel RAID controller manager thingamabob. I know it doesn't qualify as a "true" RAID controller, but it ought to work alright for my needs.

Thanks so much for your help!

Ah yes, Ctrl+I. I forget these C1100s even have that since I refuse to use it, haha. Glad to got it fixed!
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