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I'm looking for a new, small form factor build unit that's a kind of go-to for everything build. Not perfect at anything in specific but fairly good across the board. Mostly movies, games, music, a little bit of video editing here and there.
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I'm trying to find a good graphics card that works good with everything.
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Will be playing random games, from C&C Tiberian sun titles(legacy to newest), CoD, Skyrim, Bioshock Infinite, Crysis 3, maybe some flight simulators, multiple legacy consol emulator based games, along with some GoPro hd movie editing, DVR editing, LOTS of music, lots of bluray movies, and of course the piddly wunderground and the like.
Are any of these cards edged out above the others for all of that or do they still pretty much tie in the long run? Pricepoint no higher than $350, preferrably closer to the $300 mark. I'm stuck on MSI's 7970, or a good 280X
Noted that I need to upgrade PSU, this list is just a rough draft for parts list initially but I'm starting to get parts picked for a final draft and final cost
Edited by necromancer31 - 11/26/13 at 6:14pm
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Originally Posted by necromancer31 View Post

I'm looking for a new, small form factor build unit that's a kind of go-to for everything build. Not perfect at anything in specific but fairly good across the board. Mostly movies, games, music, a little bit of video editing here and there.
See it here
I'm trying to find a good graphics card that works good with everything.
FANBOYS THAT WILL ONLY BASH THE OTHER, PLEASE LEAVE NOW! I already know they are a blow-for-blow match up and am looking for the best overall.
Will be playing random games, from C&C Tiberian sun titles(legacy to newest), CoD, Skyrim, Bioshock Infinite, Crysis 3, maybe some flight simulators, multiple legacy consol emulator based games, along with some GoPro hd movie editing, DVR editing, LOTS of music, lots of bluray movies, and of course the piddly wunderground and the like.
Are any of these cards edged out above the others for all of that or do they still pretty much tie in the long run? Pricepoint no higher than $350, preferrably closer to the $300 mark. I'm stuck on MSI's 7970, or a good 280X
Noted that I need to upgrade PSU, this list is just a rough draft for parts list initially but I'm starting to get parts picked for a final draft and final cost

I can personally play Crysis 3 at High settings FXAA @ 5760x1080 at a comfortable fps level(45-60) with a single 7970, among other games (ie Max Payne 3, Far Cry 3, Crysis, BF3, BF4) all at high setting FXAA or no AA.

There isn't much reason to get the 280X over the 7970 besides better Crossfire implementation, and it if you don't think you are going to end up doing that, you might as well scratch it off your list.

The Nvidia is supposedly better for video editing and such(though I have never noticed the difference myself). The 770 is probably the better choice at this point, seeing as it's falling in line with the 7970's price range, with the price cuts an all.

But as for gameplay, 770 tends to run the roost at lower resolutions, but then looses it's edge at the 2600x1500.

If you are going with a single 1080 monitor then the 770 is definitely the card to go with though.
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go with the asus r9 280x. the best reviewed and quietest R9 280X. good for gaming and video editing. sony vegas pro 12 loves the AMD GPUs. AMD's OpenCL performance really shines.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7400/the-radeon-r9-280x-review-feat-asus-xfx/19

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121803

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-280x-third-party-round-up,3655-6.html

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/10/07/asus_r9_280x_directcu_ii_top_video_card_review/8

"The DirectCU II heatsink and hybrid fan are a real winner on the ASUS R9 280X DC2T video card. It idles the lowest temperature and at full-load hits exactly what ASUS claimed it would. We saw it hit 74c and never exceeded this. It did so with a 42% fan speed. Therefore, the GPU was running cooler than the GTX 770 and Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition. There was no fan noise, even during full-load. The cooling configuration is a success on the ASUS R9 280X DC2T. "

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7400/the-radeon-r9-280x-review-feat-asus-xfx/20

" As impressive as the XFX card was at idle, it doesn’t begin to compare to the Asus card under load. We have a card that’s channeling nearly 250W of heat out and away on a sustained basis, and yet for all of that work it generates just 41.5dB(A) of noise on our testbed. This is simply absurd in the most delightful fashion. Most of the cards in our data collection idle at just 2dB lower than this, never mind noise under load. As a result this is incredibly close to being functionally silent; in the case of our testbed the Asus card isn’t even the principle noise source when it’s under load."
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CoD, Skyrim, Bioshock Infinite, Crysis 3,

Well since in benchmarks the 770 does better than the 280x in all of these games I think the choice is maybe made easier. And yes I have just gone and looked rather than just posting "buy this" like some other people do.

Take a look for yourself, I've looked at R9 290 benchmarks reviews from reputable websites so it's up to date information:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-290-review-benchmark,3659.html

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7481/

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2013/11/05/amd-radeon-r9-290-review/1

770 beats a 280x in all of those games on each review
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8GB is plenty. i'd go down 8GB and save/wait for the non-reference 290. if you can swing it, you can prolly get a 780 now. those suggestions so far are not any faster than your 7950 in games.

i can max C3 with a 290 at stock using 1080. i am sure the 780 can do the same.
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Yeah since you're on a 7950 I'd say any single GPU you upgrade to would ideally be a 290 or 780 at least. But if you're on a tighter budget as you say then the 780 is not worth the premium over the 770 for an extra 10fps. The 290 is cheaper but it is also out of your budget and the custom cooled models will cost even more.
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Thanks all!
I'm considering making it a multi-monitor unit for 1440 but have been on the fence about it for a while and still am not sure. This build will be the last I buy for quite a while so I'm trying to keep it's long term performance as balanced as can be, while staying under the $1,500 mark(including extras not mentioned)

smaudioz - that's my problem. Budget just won't allow to get the higher rated cards, as much as I'd love to cram two 290x's in and run everything on max always rolleyes.gif I'm already hitting right at 2 gigs on bioshock(ultra settings, all games) on my 7950 so I've been leary to get a 770 and can't find a 3gig+ card under $380 with discounts. If you can find one, I'll gladly reconsider. props on the references!

rdr09 This comp will consistenly have massive multitasking, and there's programs already that kill my current 8 gigs of ram, so I'm looking to upgrade a little. Video editing while listening to music, downloading updates and running antivirus = nearly 7 gigs at peak. I'd rather have a little extra than be riding right at the cap, but good advice, nonetheless! thumb.gif Most users don't need more than 8gigs, even with insane amounts of tabs open on chrome tongue.gif

raghu - noted. I don't really bother with sony vegas, too bloody expensive and the free version doesn't let ya do much of anything that I would be doing(at least that I could find). Thanks for the links =)

EaquitasAbsum - interesting name, btw. I failed to mention the multi monitor use and hopefuls of high res gaming and video(eventually might migrate to 4K tv's if they prove their worth in the PC world). That kinda backs me up on being stuck leaning how I have.. No need for crossfire in a micro form factor, so that will probably cut that. There's so little choices for them it seems on the cheaper ones and ASUS is ALWAYS sold out. thanks for the firsthand experience info!

I'm still really biased for the 7970 since it seems to handle the larger res and still nearly ties with the 770 across all aspects. so much researching, so little time! *crazy einstein look while perusing through too many pages*
I'm still open to more info if anyone wants to contribute!
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Thanks all!
I'm considering making it a multi-monitor unit for 1440 but have been on the fence about it for a while and still am not sure. This build will be the last I buy for quite a while so I'm trying to keep it's long term performance as balanced as can be, while staying under the $1,500 mark(including extras not mentioned)

EaquitasAbsum - interesting name, btw. I failed to mention the multi monitor use and hopefuls of high res gaming and video(eventually might migrate to 4K tv's if they prove their worth in the PC world). That kinda backs me up on being stuck leaning how I have.. No need for crossfire in a micro form factor, so that will probably cut that. There's so little choices for them it seems on the cheaper ones and ASUS is ALWAYS sold out. thanks for the firsthand experience info!

I'm still really biased for the 7970 since it seems to handle the larger res and still nearly ties with the 770 across all aspects. so much researching, so little time! *crazy einstein look while perusing through too many pages*
I'm still open to more info if anyone wants to contribute!

Well if that's the case(hi-resolution gaming), then AMD is the way to go. At this point I would be looking for which one is cheaper, here in Freezing Our @ss Off Canada, the 280X is $50(and some models $100) cheaper than the 7970 and performs a little better, but it seems to draw the equivalent in power over the 7970.

It seems the Sapphire Toxic card did better than the other ones they had tested, but managed to draw 100W more than the ASUS card.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7406/the-sapphire-r9-280x-toxic-review/4
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Well if that's the case(hi-resolution gaming), then AMD is the way to go. At this point I would be looking for which one is cheaper, here in Freezing Our @ss Off Canada, the 280X is $50(and some models $100) cheaper than the 7970 and performs a little better, but it seems to draw the equivalent in power over the 7970.

It seems the Sapphire Toxic card did better than the other ones they had tested, but managed to draw 100W more than the ASUS card.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7406/the-sapphire-r9-280x-toxic-review/4

going off newegg(U.S. based), it's right at $300 for the 280x, and around $320-350 for the 7970 with a couple deals that bring it down $10 more than the 280x. I'll eye it and see which is cheaper by the time I go to by.

Anyone hear any truth about the 280x being on avg 10% more powerful than a 7970? I hear contrast that it's true but the 7970s typically overclock far higher, negating that bit. Especially with the twin frozr series(given the parts lotto of course)
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