Originally Posted by tsm106
290 is faster than a 780 right now and will push even higher when Mantle comes online. Whilst NV cards will stay where they are stuck at with dx.
I think its crazy to even entertain the idea of a 770. You will kick yourself in the nuts later.
It's crazy? Really? It's crazy to consider a GTX770 that's $70 cheaper than the card you recommended, and is also quiet enough that I can play it at night while my roommates are asleep with my speakers on and not having to blast my ears with 50 dB of sound to flush out the landing 747 jet inside my case?
Bigger and faster isn't always the best choice and not to mention, some people have to work within a budget. I don't have the extra to spend on a better cooler so the way the 290 is, is the way I have to accept it. Loud cooler and all. And $70 + $30 for BF4 means I'm out $100. Not $50.
EDIT: R9 290 comes with BF4.
Show me where an R9 290 is $50 more than a 770 too because otherwise you're just making up prices. Google shopping search the first 15 R9 290's are starting at $399.99. Not ONE of them is $379.99 and a GTX 770 search has a $314.99 card within the first five search listings. That means my aforementioned $70 price difference just became $85.00.
I really don't understand how most people on this forum and other tech forums justify their completely bizarre method of rounding numbers. A $70 difference suddenly has to be rounded to the nearest $50 denominator so let's just round it down to $50? I can play that game too. Since I found a GTX 770 for $314.99, the nearest $50 denominator is $300 so now the R9 290 is $100 more expensive.
And please don't mention over-clocking or Mantle.
Most people don't even know what Mantle is and it'll be at least a calendar year before we see it in mainstream titles. Are you going to tell me a GTX 770 won't play games on high settings at 1080p next December? Because it's been over a year since the 670 came out and it can STILL play games on the highest settings and it will likely do so for at least another 7-8 months. Most reviews for the 770 and 280X and up, BARELY show 1080p as a resolution being tested and focus their analysis on 1600p where there is actually a drop in frame-rates.
As it is, I'm barely able to justify the 770 as I was planning on spending $300 for a card and $320-330 already pushes the envelope.
I'd really like to know when $300 for a GPU suddenly became a "huge mistake". If you can't have acceptable gaming for 1-2 years on a $300 GPU, it's no wonder most people say PC gaming is dead. Why do they even make the R9 280X or the R7 if anyone who spends less than $400 on a GPU is making a "huge mistake"?
Anyway, I'm more or less between the R9 280X and the GTX 770 unless there's a sale on the R9 290 or the GTX 780 drops in price due to the 290 being on par (Below $399.99).