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1) What were the best things to happen to computers over the last 10 years? What stands out most for you? What are your favorite memories?

I think the rate that we are expanding our technology is insane... I can't even put together a whole computer without something new coming out or a newer version of something comes out. Before we know it we'll be computing in yottaflops.

2) Where do you think the next 10 years will take us? Will it be a good place for Overclockers and PC Gamers? Will desktop computers still be standard, or will our mobile overlords finally have their day?

I'm in the near future we will develop quantum computers and with that technology at our fingertips we will gain so much more understanding on how the universe works. I think that until we find more efficient materials to make computers out of they will essentially stay around the same size and desktops will rule higher computation as always.
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1. Without a doubt, Steam. Digital distribution is here to stay, and I can't imagine going back to physical media. It completely changed the way I consume games. From making it easy to find new games I didn't even know I wanted to try, especially indie games, to just taking out the hassle of managing which disc I have in the machine it has completely changed what I play and how I play it.

2. Desktops will still have their place, but so does mobile. The two can coexist. Desktop PC will continue to be the place to go for top-of-the-line performance, because you don't have to make any sacrifices for mobility. But mobility is awesome too - and with things like the new Tegra, things are only going to go up from here. I don't think anyone can quite predict what a mobile device will look like or be able to do 10 years from now (don't believe me? compare your current mobile favorite to the cellphone you had in 2004), but it will be awesome. Game designers are only going to get better with their engines, continuing to get more immersive effects put in games, and that will continue to push the hardware. At one point I thought we would plateau on the art that we ask our graphics processors to render, but that was before the question "But can it run Crysis?" became a meme. There's always more to add, more depth, more reality. Physics, in particular, is one aspect I see likely to undergo tremendous improvement in the next decade.
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1.) I think out of everything that has happened in the last ten years, Multi-Core CPU's, SSD's, HDD capacity, and the LCD screen have been the most revolutionary changes, i mean i remember as a kid playing treasure mathstorm, and my lego games on al ol' win 98 machine. I remember i got mad because i wanted to upgrade to XP and it only had a 4 gig hard drive thumb.gif . Back then i wasn't installing OS's yet so i couldn't upgrade. But like one of the first posters mentioned, the CD-rom drive. Like just being able to put 700mb on a disc was insane, like complete overkill if i might add, and now we have 128GB discs....

2.) where will computers be in 10 years, well considering that alot of places still utilize the old CRT monitor, i think in the next 10 years 1080 and stuff will be the old CRT monitor, and will become such a low price its not even funny. Maybe we will have 10w cpu's that literally are as powerful as Xeon's. That'd be something. But i feel like the desktop will probably lose its place, maybe even in the workplace. Because with how simple tablets are to many people these days, and every likes to be lazy in that respect. They will become our workplace machines, our daily machines, our everything. Do i like that? Not really, i have a lot of respect for people who use desktops, because everyone is always trying to get ahead, and smaller and better is what they think is the best. Little do they know.. (sidetracked) . Overall however, i think we are going to make great advances moore's law mandates it. Let's just hope they don't kill gaming like it is today like it was at the millenium. tongue.gif
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shamlessly posting this oh so very late:)

1) What were the best things to happen to computers over the last 10 years? What stands out most for you? What are your favorite memories?
multicore processing. i remember going from my athlon (the first machine i built) 3200+ with a single core cpu to a core2duo, which allowed me to play two video games at the same time (lets not get into why i want to do such things). i think most important was the realization, that the current technology (silicon) wont got past ~4-5GHz and adding more cores is the only way to add performance.
my favorite memory? clocking my e8400; man those days were fun.


2) Where do you think the next 10 years will take us? Will it be a good place for Overclockers and PC Gamers? Will desktop computers still be standard, or will our mobile overlords finally have their day?
well if cpu manufacturers stay on silicon, we wont be goin far. we will only be going lightweight, low power and similar. that is why i hope some company will start producing cpus based on graphite, which gives us much more giggahertz smile.gif i think there will always be place for overclockers: you can always push something just a bit farther and getting that extra fps is worth it. I expect either virtual reality headsets or neural interface will start to appear, and to get those to work you need power! i hope desktops stay, because they are so much fun to build, but i am afraid that the common ppl lack appreciation for this
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1. That's a good question. I guess digital interfaces is a good one; VGA and PATA are fine and dandy, but DVI/HDMI and SATA are so much better.

Multi-core computing is definitely towards the top of the list. Being able to offload tasks to different threads wasn't unheard of - a sort of prototype to Hyperthreading has been around for a while - but having multiple cores on the same die was a huge advancement.

Flash memory being as cheap and common as it is now is awesome. It's infinitely more durable than magnetic disks. Photographers, remember the horrors of dropping your MicroDrives? Well, CompactFlash is here to save the day! With Cloud storage, as much as I hate it (that's for another time though), becoming more mainstream, I bet most laptops will start to ship with an mSATA or M.2 SSD and nothing else.

GPGPUs are also a good one: using these FPU powerhouses not only for rendering graphics but also physics (TressFX, PhysX, how's it going?) means a lot less burden on the CPU and explains why so many supercomputers are basically just GPU farms. Your crypto miner is more-or-less the same stuff as a supercomputer.

What is the most important event to happen? Wow. That is an excellent question. I think AMD buying ATI is up there. The 880GTX existing is probably a good nomination too.

My favorite memories? Haven't been around long enough to answer that, but I'll go with my first POST beep.


2. HDMI and DisplayPort derivatives will replace all analog connections. As it is there's legacy support in VGA ports on the lowest of low-end GPUs and a single DVI-I port on most others. SATA, while I predict it will remain as we know it for HDDs and ODDs, will become more reliant on the PCIe bus for SSDs.

I don't know whether or not we'll get even more cores. Intel isn't adding too many more to their top Xeons. Right now they're at up to 18, and just a few years ago it was 15. That's not too good. They can compensate somewhat with Hyperthreading. AMD has a good solution for more cores in my opinion: modules. The modular design allows more integer cores to fit in the same space at the expense of FPU performance. HSA is aiming to fix that though. (See last point) Problem is, the 14nm Haswell chips for consumers have no more cores than Nehalem's 45nm (?). Intel could easily make tri-core i3s and hexacore i5s and i7s, but they just don't have the competition to bother.

I do think that we'll reach a limit on SSDs - they become less durable as nodes shrink - but magnetic and optical media will go away for the most part. Movies will likely be download or streaming only, for example. The optical disc does need to stick around until the US fixes its horrible horrible infrastructure. Sneaker Net is always fastest, especially in the middle of Nowhere, Kansas. Anyway, back in the dark days of 2008, THIS SSD existed. $3400 for a drive with just 128GiB of NAND. Today? Well, Crucial M500s go up to 1024GiB (1TiB) of NAND at an MSRP of just $600. Eight times as much flash for just 17.6% the price means you get 50 times as much storage per dollar! SSDs can only get bigger too. Most drives have 64GiB NAND modules, and the aforementioned M500 has 16 of them. The new mSATA variant of the ever popular Samsung 840 EVO has just four modules with 256GiB each. Best part? The M500 has a whole other side of a PCB to use, so 32 modules can fit. In theory, you can fit 8TiB of NAND flash in a standard 7mm 2.5" SSD with only one PCB. eek.gif

SoCs are awesome. Your phone has one, your tablet has one, etc etc. Guess what? With a few exceptions (Intel's i7 Extreme series and the Xeons on which they are based, AMD FX series and the Opterons on which they are based), all modern consumer CPUs fit that definition too. Look at HSA. Devs are jumping all over it. That integrated GPU that you have no purpose for? That's changing. Given AMD's modular design, I bet that they will implement HSA or something like it at the lowest possible level, eliminating the need for specially-coded HSA programs, and totally eliminate the FPU from the CPU's cores. Intel? They seem to be thinking the same thing. Broadwell is supposed to only upgrade the integrated GPU and leave the CPU alone. Xbox One and PS4? They're APUs. Game devs will make use of them, else they a large portion of their market. Seriously, a 1.6GHz FX-8350 is not a good CPU.

Will desktops stick around? Not for normal people, no. Laptop docks might replace them for the office PC. For us? I don't think we're going anywhere soon. There is a large enough market for the world's best-selling interactive benchmark, Crysis, to be, well Crysis. Components will probably get smaller though, and I think mATX and mITX have shots at becoming the "standard" form-factors. HTPCs exist, the Steam Machines are coming out, computers are becoming more user friendly... I would say we're in a golden age of custom PC building and PC gaming right about now. Tablet and phone gaming will never ever replace true PC gaming. Most of the top-rated games on the App Store are cash grabs. Remember how you used to type in a cheat code to get more money and lives? Well, that cheat code can be found on your credit card now.

And finally, Wintel is being broken up. Intel's competitor is no longer AMD, but ARM. Windows' rival isn't OS X, but Linux and iOS. I don't know if we can call that a good thing or not, but monopolies suck and Wintel is about as close as you can legally get to one.
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1) What were the best things to happen to computers over the last 10 years? What stands out most for you? What are your favorite memories?

In the computer timeline, i guess what stands out for me is my old Q9300 rig.
It might've been a prebuilt computer, but not many of my friends could play GTA4 on their computers fluently biggrin.gif My favorite memory about computers would be the first time i saw the internals, it simply amazed me how all that stuff was compressed. As for best things, i would say digital video connections (DVI, DisplayPort, HDMI etc) and wireless high quality mice. i hope keyboards soon become wireless and be mechanic too, i hate how wires look redface.gif

2) Where do you think the next 10 years will take us? Will it be a good place for Overclockers and PC Gamers? Will desktop computers still be standard, or will our mobile overlords finally have their day?
nahhhhhhh, for "overclockers" unless laptops become overclockable i doubt it
desktop's are slowly being phased out, i can even just look at my house and tell this. my father is either on his ultrabook or when he's abroad on his ipad, has a dock for ultrabook in the office. mom just uses her iphone or her laptop no matter where and when, and my brother uses my dad's ipad when he needs it for hw or just goes to play the PS3. for me, i find my desktop to be incredibly useless looking at space/power wise. my 2kg mac can do the exact same things i want from a computer, mostly the same speed, much lighter, quieter and also smaller in size too. personally i have no need for a "big old desktop", hence why i'm saving money to get ITX. i can get the same system smaller by a considerable amount, and since i move around the thing quite a bit weight is an issue :/

practically, it's already started. many common users have transferred to something mobile, and i think soon us will be eradicated as well, to a big extent at least.
 
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10 years? Already? It seems I was on here in the late 90's and early 00's getting info on the best 300/450 Celeron chips to OC.

The BEST thing to happen for gaming was the VooDoo chip, hands down nothing else is even close ..... playing quake in 3D was it! At one point my 1GB hard drive had 900gb of Quake files on it and my SLI VooDoo cards had as much memory as my system had.

The 2nd best thing? Hum, for gaming was positional sound from Aureal ...... wish it was still here, Half Life was a blast to play with that.

I say the next 10 will bring "liquid life like" graphics quality and the return of positional sound along with flexible big thin screen tech.

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screen resolution and flat monitors and internet speed smile.gif




faster speeds and better visuals will always be evolving thumb.gif
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1) What were the best things to happen to computers over the last 10 years? What stands out most for you? What are your favorite memories?

2) Where do you think the next 10 years will take us? Will it be a good place for Overclockers and PC Gamers? Will desktop computers still be standard, or will our mobile overlords finally have their day?

Hmmmmm......

1) I'd say phones & tablets, because it locked all of the "clueless consumers" into a spyware box, leaving the real computer users free to setup their computers to protect against Ads & Malicious Code found online, while everyone else has to "suffer".....

2) More spyware / trackware via HTML5 scripts ran directly within/through the browser (including inside of online games)

(Not trying to be negative here, but rather realistic.)

I've lost my gease or enchantment with computers all together, if there was something worth noting, other than paying for a media box that the media corps control, let me know about it....
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I think internet/wireless technology improvements. Who remembers 28k modems and playing games across the internet was mind blowing.

I Remember being 13/14 and playing red alert in 1996 against a friend when we both had to sit in the same room connecting computers with a crossover cable!
Then we got 56k modems and a Red Alert patch released... and now we could play each other from different houses over this crazy thing called TCP/IP!

Favorite memory - being one of the first people in the country to get a cable modem... and playing CounterStrike 24/7 with a latency of only 30... vs 200-300 everyone else had on dialup, slaying newbz!
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