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Originally Posted by DesertRat View Post

To be completely fair, they still would've spent a ton of tax payer dollars on legitimately licensing the software too, which they should've done. Especially since this is software lives depend on, and should be paying for it, and getting support from the manufacturer.

Wonder how much they would've saved if they went legit.
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Guess our government is just trying to let us know that pirating software is ok thumb.gif
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It's pretty safe to bet that the installation of the software on more than 150 workstations was not malicious. It was a matter of the person distributing the software not properly keeping track of the distribution. It gets to some folks outside their realm and due to lack of knowledge those folks think that the software is able to be used by anyone in the Army.

Again I HIGHLY doubt it was malicious. Rather, it was a lack of proper control on the part of the software distributors in the Army AND the software company for not having some means of checking how many licenses are being issued. If they are even using licenses like other companies do.

It's easy to jump on the OMG hypocrite’s bandwagon. The Army has about 550K active duty. Someone somewhere will make a mistake.

It is up to the individual software licensing account holders to ensure proper legal distribution. Someone screwed up. It's not a conspiracy.
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It's a conspiracy. Theys gonna.... uh...
ok, I'm burned out. night.
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Do people in this thread really think that the same people who pirated this software (some people in charge of managing the army's computer systems) are the same people who decry piracy (some legislators)? doh.gif
There are millions of people who work for the government... with a broad spectrum of opinion on all topics.
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Do people in this thread really think that the same people who pirated this software (some people in charge of managing the army's computer systems) are the same people who decry piracy (some legislators)? doh.gif
There are millions of people who work for the government... with a broad spectrum of opinion on all topics.

No, but they correctly think that these actions are representative, or else it would have been avoided by some control mechanism. Since that clearly didn't happen, the higher-ups of those that got the pirated software either don't care (which is bad), or don't know (which is much worse), and condone anything their subordinates want to do...
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Or it actually could just be piracy, Just saying.
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Not surprised. The military does this kind of crap all the tme. To be fair, the military also gets shafted by suppliers all the time.
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"Do as we say, not as we do..."
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We get shafted by this......since its of course tax payer dollars ;(
Not really, the value of going legit would be a LOT more than the settlement.
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As it turned out, the army had installed pirated copies of the software on 93 servers and more than 9,000 standalone devices. With license fees of $1.35 million per server and $5,000 per device, Apptricity calculated that the Government owed the company $224 million in unpaid fees.
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“The Government knew or should have known that it was required to obtain a license for copying Apptricity software onto each of the servers and devices,” the company told the court, demanding a minimum of $224,543,420.80 in damages, an amount equal to the shortfall in license revenue.

They sued for the licenses value, settled for a lot less
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Thanks Obama for only giving them $50 million tax dollars rolleyes.gif
Yes, THANKS OBAMA.

Nevermind the fact that this happened between 2004 and 2009.
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It's pretty safe to bet that the installation of the software on more than 150 workstations was not malicious. It was a matter of the person distributing the software not properly keeping track of the distribution. It gets to some folks outside their realm and due to lack of knowledge those folks think that the software is able to be used by anyone in the Army.

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It's easy to jump on the OMG hypocrite’s bandwagon. The Army has about 550K active duty. Someone somewhere will make a mistake.

It is up to the individual software licensing account holders to ensure proper legal distribution. Someone screwed up. It's not a conspiracy.

They paid for 5 server licenses and installed it in 98 (93 pirated copies), paid for 150 workstations and installed it in over 5.000, I'm sorry, that's not just not keeping proper records. Someone in there knew what they were doing.
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