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The ironic thing to me is...

The US government spends MILLIONS of man hours and BILLIONS of dollars to monitor everything (including the number of sheets of Charmin used per sitting per individual), yet is unable to count the number of times they have installed a software program????

C'mon man....


edit for spelling error
Edited by Bulldozer72 - 11/28/13 at 10:44am
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Power is might, I mean right, I mean might, I mean makes it right. Yep, that is it. You and me though, well we're criminals.

This goes for everything.
 
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if i were a software hacker, cracking goverment software to pirate, i would be imbedding that with malware for sure. did the government not realize this? but still wanted to save a bucks for software thats could be potentially hazardous lol.
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if i were a software hacker, cracking goverment software to pirate, i would be imbedding that with malware for sure. did the government not realize this? but still wanted to save a bucks for software thats could be potentially hazardous lol.

This wasn't pirating in terms of downloading or anything like that. It was just using "x" amount of licenses to use on more systems than licenses they had.
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It's pretty safe to bet that the installation of the software on more than 150 workstations was not malicious. It was a matter of the person distributing the software not properly keeping track of the distribution. It gets to some folks outside their realm and due to lack of knowledge those folks think that the software is able to be used by anyone in the Army.

Again I HIGHLY doubt it was malicious. Rather, it was a lack of proper control on the part of the software distributors in the Army AND the software company for not having some means of checking how many licenses are being issued. If they are even using licenses like other companies do.

It's easy to jump on the OMG hypocrite’s bandwagon. The Army has about 550K active duty. Someone somewhere will make a mistake.

It is up to the individual software licensing account holders to ensure proper legal distribution. Someone screwed up. It's not a conspiracy.

Sure people make mistakes but an mistake like this that goes unnoticed for what, 6 years. I find that highly suspect. Sure it might be hard to keep track of the client software but the fact that it was installed on 93 severs despite them only having 5 server licenses and not one of the people charged with the upkeep of said servers noticed that there was more installs then licenses. Like I said: highly suspect.
    
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The government gets fleeced all the time,this is probably just another case.
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The deal allowed the Government to use the software on five servers and 150 standalone devices. As it turned out, the army had installed pirated copies of the software on 93 servers and more than 9,000 standalone devices. With license fees of $1.35 million per server and $5,000 per device, Apptricity calculated that the Government owed the company $224 million in unpaid fees. The Government eventually admitted that it used many copies of the software without permission, and after lengthy negotiations both parties have now decided to settle the case.
Based on the statistics this was clearly stealing, and the government even admitted to it. I understand it is mission critical software, but that still doesn't give them the right to steal the software. Since I've been itching to say it, hypocrites rolleyes.gif.
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The deal allowed the Government to use the software on five servers and 150 standalone devices. As it turned out, the army had installed pirated copies of the software on 93 servers and more than 9,000 standalone devices. With license fees of $1.35 million per server and $5,000 per device, Apptricity calculated that the Government owed the company $224 million in unpaid fees. The Government eventually admitted that it used many copies of the software without permission, and after lengthy negotiations both parties have now decided to settle the case.
Based on the statistics this was clearly stealing, and the government even admitted to it. I understand it is mission critical software, but that still doesn't give them the right to steal the software. Since I've been itching to say it, hypocrites rolleyes.gif.

Although the military is a federal branch, is monitored and funded by, it does not mean they make ALL decisions within that separate branch. Are they held accountable and responsible for their mistakes, yes, but the mistakes these people make does not necessarily reflect the principles and morals of the government itself.

Those calling the government hypocrites don't seem to grasp the concept of individuality, nor a good understanding of their political system. For those who can't read past the thread title, please at least read the first sentence in the quote.
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For years the U.S. military operated pirated copies of logistics software that was used to protect soldiers and shipments in critical missions.

This is commonly known as reading comprehension.
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While Apptricity was happy to have the Government as a client, the company was shocked to find out that the army had secretly installed thousands of unlicensed copies of the software. This unauthorized use was discovered by accident during Strategic Capabilities Planning 2009, when the U.S. Army Program Director stated that thousands of devices used Apptricity software.

No wonder political conversations are BANNED off this site.
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Although the military is a federal branch, is monitored and funded by, it does not mean they make ALL decisions within that separate branch. Are they held accountable and responsible for their mistakes, yes, but the mistakes these people make does not necessarily reflect the principles and morals of the government itself.

Those calling the government hypocrites don't seem to grasp the concept of individuality, nor a good understanding of their political system. For those who can't read past the thread title, please at least read the first sentence in the quote.
This is commonly known as reading comprehension.
No wonder political conversations are BANNED off this site.
It's commonly known as generalization. There's really no need to be rude. People are angry because the United States is known for making law suits against pirates that have required ridiculous compensation (for example: when the RIAA tried to sue Limewire for more money than exists). When people say government they typically refer to all of the federal branches, not specifically branches run by the legislation. "Government" is a broad term and you are reading too far into what we're saying. Most of us are just angry because the "government" is constantly on someone for pirating, when they have been doing it behind this poor companies back.
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Originally Posted by Diablosbud View Post

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Originally Posted by Domino View Post

Although the military is a federal branch, is monitored and funded by, it does not mean they make ALL decisions within that separate branch. Are they held accountable and responsible for their mistakes, yes, but the mistakes these people make does not necessarily reflect the principles and morals of the government itself.

Those calling the government hypocrites don't seem to grasp the concept of individuality, nor a good understanding of their political system. For those who can't read past the thread title, please at least read the first sentence in the quote.
This is commonly known as reading comprehension.
No wonder political conversations are BANNED off this site.
It's commonly known as generalization. There's really no need to be rude. People are angry because the United States is known for making law suits against pirates that have required ridiculous compensation (for example: when the RIAA tried to sue Limewire for more money than exists). When people say government they typically refer to all of the federal branches, not specifically branches run by the legislation. "Government" is a broad term and you are reading too far into what we're saying. Most of us are just angry because the "government" is constantly on someone for pirating, when they have been doing it behind this poor companies back.

You're still confusing the 2. The government did not pirate, but rather a governmental branch; and yet the hypocritical-finger is point towards the government as if they made the decision as opposed to the branch. The military does not make the laws in your country, Americans. Just thought that would be important to know.
Edited by Domino - 11/28/13 at 5:26pm
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