Originally Posted by Lass3
780 wins in alot of those links and you seem to forget that 780 is way more silent and have much higher OC headroom.
Much higher OC headroom? What?
How about you look at hwbot, average results on air are within 20Mhz of each other.
Originally Posted by xoleras
No, we're comparing the overclocked GTX 780 which is 15% better than the Titan and 15% better than the 290X, and much quieter with better software quality than the 290. Overclocked GTX 780 performance example:
Much quieter? It's less than half as quiet. Both are loud, both are going to sound like a GPU with a fast moving fan mounted on it. Both are probably going to overclock to around 1.13-1.14Ghz and both have equal software. (nVidia has more software and a better driver interface, but has also had more severe bugs in general. I'd personally occasionally take my mouse pointer corrupting or the CFX frame pacing issues over a bad stock fan profile making my card overheat or games being corrupted like mad
to the point where they're unplayable even if the worse issues aren't as common)
And I'll be the one to say it: Every recent, high-end stock cooler from both AMD and nVidia has been crap, why? Because they use a blower type fan, like most people here I have more than enough fans to completely negate any potential CPU/RAM/HDD temperature increases from an AC style cooler, I prefer how much quieter and cooler running they are over blower coolers and besides, the GPU/GPU VRM tends to be closest to its temperature limit/most likely to hit it out of every component in every PC I've owned too...It's pretty much destroyed any chance of me getting a reference design since my only option is to then go for a Triple Slot AC Accelero and I'd rather stick to 2 slot GPUs.
Originally Posted by xoleras
Linus tech tips has been around a long time, he's a member here at OCN. He's been a youtube reviewer for ages now, and he is actually one of the biggest youtube reviewers that i'm aware of.. Besides which, it's not like his conclusions are any different than thousands of other web reviews - the 290X is hot and loud, and the performance variance for using quiet fan speeds makes it a less desirable product compared to an OC'ed 780.
Despite this, his conclusion in his 290/290X review was positive based on price. So it's not like he was slagging the 290, he had a lot of good things to say about them in terms of performance. But there is no denying that they're hot and loud cards - just like the GTX 480 was.
He's also mainly good for unboxings? I'd personally take user opinions when they own the card (Especially when most of it seems to be agreeing with what everyone else is saying) over any review from any site that I didn't literally watch get made with my own eyes...Why? Because this has happened plenty of times before, where reviews make some tiny difference seem like a night and day one or they just plain make a mountain out of a molehill. I saw it with my 470 (Which was ridiculously hot, but not really that
much louder than..well, most of my other GPUs have been with a custom fan profile despite most reviews pegging it as one of the loudest single-GPUs on the market at the time.) and with my FX (Going by reviews, you'd expect a Night and Day difference between a 4.5Ghz FX-4170 and i5 3570k...Not a slight difference 75% of the time, a somewhat noticeable difference 20% of the time and a night and day difference 5% of the time; I could continue with examples where reviews exaggerate or don't really show the reality of a situation but I'll be here forever)
Originally Posted by Baghi
One thing I've notice is most people complaining about the loudness are the ones who don't actually own the card whereas those who do so state otherwise.
It's because stock fan profiles tend to suck regardless of which card you own, and on a hotter running card like the 290*s are it becomes more noticeable. Case in point, my GTX 470 with its stock fan profile would regularly go to >90%, I was able to lower that to ~70% with a small increase in temperatures.
There's also other options for those who don't want the maintenance inherent with watercooling.
Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er
If it means we save $50 with a cheaper cooler i am all up for it. Cards that are $500 + its not the end of the world to have them under water. This way i spend less money overall if i go water.
Originally Posted by mkclan
Not last few pages... last few GPU threads
I've been here long enough to know that it's not just the last few.
Originally Posted by 47 Knucklehead
Since there are no R9 290X's with built in water blocks, did you just accidentally ignore my point about only one AMD card maker allows you to keep your warranty on the card if you rip off the crappy stock cooler and add your own cooler ... or was it intentional? Well, I hope you bought MSI R9 290X's.
And how are they, or any nVidia OEM, going to tell if you took off your cooler? That only really voids warranties because of the chance of it chipping the bare GPU die which shouldn't really happen when merely swapping GPU coolers unless you're not being careful in the slightest about it.