Originally Posted by tajoh111
From the video. It shows that the 290 is louder. The gtx 480 maxes out at 61 decibels at 100% fan profile while the 290 maxes out at 69 decibels.
From the video its goes like this for the gtx 480
20% its between 52-53db
40% its between 53-55db
60% its between 55-58dB
80% its between 57-59db
100% It maxes out at 61Db
For the 290 it is the following.
at 20% its at 53-55db
at 40% its at 55-58db
at 60% its at 58-60db
at 80% its at 62-66db
at 100% its at up t 69db.
Both cards go though the same testing methodology, start at 20 and go up in 20% increments till 100%.
Also you underestimate how many people use stock coolers. If given a good enough solution like the gtx 780, people will use it.
To put the gtx 780 cooler in the same league as the 290 series for people who want a quiet PC is irrational. People that want quietness can very well use the stock solution on the gtx 780. With its stock fan profile, its still relatively fast and quiet. On the other hand when you adjust the fan speed of the 290 series to make the same noise level as a gtx 780, you have a cards that is 22% slower than its stock initial speed making it the same speed as a 280x. And with this low of a fan speed, its overheats past 95C making it still louder than a gtx 780.
People also like blower style fans if they are doing a dual card solution. Open air coolers are often worse with this task.
I realized I accidentally omitted the main part of my post: What percentages are the fans going to be typically running at? I've seen anywhere from 60 to 90% for the GTX 480 and numbers as low as 47% for the R9 290 in Quiet Mode...At which point it's not going to be that much of a difference anyway.
If you care that much about noise levels and get a blower cooler, you're an idiot plain and simple. My Gentle Typhoons at 5v are enough to remove any excess heat from an case containing an air cooled GTX 470 overclocked to 800Mhz...Even watercooled and one of said GTs being on a 120mm radiator at 5v kept that GTX 470 at ~60c and my FX-4170 (At the time) around 50c, just like it was with my GTX 275 and my HD7950...I haven't bothered to even check my i5 as it doesn't clock higher than 4.5Ghz no matter what I do and temperatures have always been in check with it.
Those GTs at 5v? I just checked using the same app as in that video and my PC at idle is 41dB. My point isn't that most people use aftermarket/custom OEM coolers or the like (Because as you said, that's false) but that it's just like when people here complain about power consumption on the FX series or Fermis while running overclocked i7s or the heat output of a Fermi: Complaining for the sake of complaining, because in the real world if they care about noise, then they'd either see that marketing blurb saying "x dB lower than reference! y° C lower than reference!" and have it mean something to them or they'd be taking the stock cooler off anyway for something aftermarket or they're not researching the product beyond its performance and price anyway.
The GTX 780 hits 48.1dB in BF3 according to Anand...That's louder than my rig is and hardly "quiet" at all, and while impressive for a blower..it's still a blower and isn't quiet. My rig is nearly half as loud (7dB difference, 10dB difference would be doubling/halving) and I still do not consider my rig to be quiet...Quiet was when I had my GTX 470 under water, or the Accelero S1 (With a slow spinning 120mm fan ziptied to it) on my 9800GT because neither of those really increased much from idle levels of noise and were noticeably quieter than my current rig to the point where the HDDs spinning down during idle time made a noticeable difference in volume which going from what few numbers I can find on HDD volume levels, means that the rig was 3-5dB quieter than my current rig and 10-12dB quieter (More than half as loud!) than the GTX 780 is.
...How are open air coolers worse at SLI/CFX than blower ones? Blower ones still draw the air from the front of the card and have to blow it out the back, and open air coolers drawing warmer air is often countered easily by the fact they're much
more efficient at cooling...Why do you think TH recommend the Accelero Xtreme III with the R9 290? Decent open air coolers always destroy blower coolers in terms of temperature comparisons and also cool the VRMs, etc just as well if not better (Due to having a fan directly blowing air onto the heatsink, rather than past it or as the 9800GTX+ stock heartsink has it, directly overhead with little scope for the air to actually reach it. (Quick example of blower vs open: My HD7950 Boost at stock, Delta T of 43-48c as I am not 100% certain on the room temperature. BitTechs one with a reference cooler? 57c. Same story with my GTX 275 TwinFrozr, HD4890 Vapor-Xs, my other open air HD4890
, etc...They all showed far better temperatures than what the reference coolers were doing, with ~10c differences typical and ~20c not unheard of...and the difference between adding a second HD4890 Vapor-X to a CM690 with Yate Loon low speed fans in all slots was around 3c, more than easily covered.)
Not to mention, an R9 290 with an Accelero Xtreme III is still
going to be slightly cheaper than an GTX 780, quieter, cooler running with only the triple slot cooling and installation of said cooling as a downside...and those two downsides will be completely gone when you can pick up an R9 290 with a TwinFrozr, DirectCU, Windforce, etc cooler. (Also one thing to note: The only custom OEM cooler commonly avoided is also the only blower one that I know of: The HIS IceQ series...and even they've now gone for Open Air.
And you know what? I say this as someone who would most likely go for a GTX 780 over anything else on the market right now, not for the volume, not for the power, not for any reason beyond its performance level at the price it's at with my current hardware and the lack of a three slot requirement.
Finally, who plays games without having the speakers on? You don't need headphones to drown out the noise, my PC is behind my main screen (So, around 0.7m from where I'm seated) and I usually can't hear it unless I'm looking for it over my old Logitech X-530s at 1/4 (Or what I'd consider normal) volume.