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best 7870 for this Black Friday (MSI vs Sapphire vs ASUS)

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hello was curious to see if anyone has any suggestions or recommendations for all these great value cards out now for black friday sale:

MSI:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127722

they stop producing the HAWK version and twin froz which made me sad this one looks similar to twin froz but maybe the cheaper version of it? 3 silver heatpipes
is it true you can not use AMD drivers for this someone told me its MSI personal drivers for it this would suck.

Sapphire:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202025

i have been buying sapphire for years and it never let me down but this one looks like the cheapest after market cooler. 2 heatpipes but made out of copper.

ASUS:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121649

this i heard has best cooling but it is extremely overpriced and mail in rebate is a huge gamble, if you don't get those 50 bucks back you will loose out immensely

I am leaning towards the Sapphire at moment.

what do you guys suggest? these are the 3 cheapest 7870 out for sale now.
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I would get the Asus over the other two. The first MSI card looks bottom of the barrel
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http://us.hardware.info/comparisontable/products/156027-166260-166982-148837

saw this in another site.


ASUS is clearly best but is it worth gamble on that mail in rebate? i have had a lot of bad experience with rebates over the years and instant rebates>MIR(you can buy R9 270x almost for ASUS price)

not sure why but sapphire looks like its cheap build, and i also heard a lot of bad batches before with discontinued older version.

P.S- ty guys for information appreciate it.
OC alpha that site in another language ( <--- does not use chrome still )


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These surveys confirm that this second version of the Radeon HD 7870 from Sapphire has a less efficient than the original version although the GPU is cooled properly and noise are not disproportionately high cooler

Edited by KingAlkaiser - 11/28/13 at 8:25am
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Although they're all made by good companies and are at least OK, I think, I can only personally comment on the MSI.

I personally have that exact model and it ran hot for me. It was a good overclocker but it hit 80 degrees. I hit 1240 Mhz on the core clock with it, and 3dmark11 showed performance similar to a stock 7950, according to multiple results people posted in forums and on the site. I may be wrong, but I got something like 9200 for the graphics score paired with an FX 8320.

If you've got a wind tunnel of a case the MSI might not be too bad. It's a good card, just hot. Also, if your other components are loud, you might not have an issue with the noise.

However, I got so annoyed with the heat and noise that I strapped on an H55 with a bunch of zip ties instead of the stock cooler. I haven't even got past 47 degrees on the core when overclocked running MSI Kombustor. That's at least a 30 degree drop, which I'm VERY happy about. biggrin.gif I've posted in the "Red mod" club thread here. If you're interested in doing that, check out that thread! I think it's pretty cool. It's almost as if I have a passive cooler, since I have the fan on the radiator running at a constant 800 rpm, which is plenty, and the pump is very quiet for me, almost totally inaudible over anything else in my house sitting 2 feet from the case.

The mount on the stock heatsink was good, as the heatpipes got very hot (ouch). It's just a hot card, I suppose.

However, I think that Sapphire has more than 2 heatpipes though, you can see them through the fans on the first picture if you zoom. I think there's 4 of them.

If you don't want to mess with huge mail in rebates or just want to save money, I think the Sapphire would be just fine. It should at least be miles ahead of the stock cooler. Even if you had to get an aftermarket $50 cooler because it turned out to be really bad, you'd still be spending the same as the with the Asus card before the rebate. One review says that the Sapphire 7870 gets to 60 degrees Celsius, which is very acceptable and leaves room for overclocking.

Good luck!
Edited by Spencer12 - 11/28/13 at 11:33am
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