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I have been reading lots of reviews that claim the duel core opterons are made with higher quality silicon than the athlon x2 series and often get much better OCs. Any validity? (please provide a link if possible)

Also, there is a rumor that they are no longer in production, and will soon be gone, but they seem to be dropping in price which is odd to me. A link to some verifiable info would be nice cuz i tend to wait till products hit rock bottom before I buy...thanks!
post #2 of 16
No links but look all over this site and you will see that it is true that most Optys are more stable at higher overclocks with low vcore. If you want a good deal, go to newegg for a cheap Opty 165 that will overclock ~1ghz. Or you could hit up ebay, a few ccbbe 0610's.
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post #3 of 16
Its true that Opterons are made with higher quality parts.
They are designed for use in servers in big buisness and run 24/7 without breaks. The workload is demanding and they dont skimp on quality for that
environment.
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I have read that they run cooler, but I don't know about being made out of higer quality silicon. It's probably the same material, just a better manufacturing process, if anything. The Athlons need a lot of voltage, where as I know someone at Xtreme Systems forums that has an Opteron 165 that is only running these settings, which are impressive to me:
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Here is exactly what I do. I boot at 280HTT 1.40v, NB 1.8V=1.9V, NB 1.2V=1.3V, HTV 1.2V=1.25V ...just enough to keep everything from drooping below defaults. Then once I get into windows I open uguru and begin to overclock from there. I raise the vcore to 1.45V and can run up to 313HTT orthos stable for at least 10 hours. Then I up vcore to 1.475 and can run HTT up to 316. So far this is where I'm at because it has taken me a while to get familiar with the ram and timings to get all things stable.
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yea just as long you dont have a DFI board...=S..I'm only at 280mhz and you need at least 334mhz to hit the 3.0ghz point.... and I'm stuck ='(
 
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the dfi boards that are based on the ati chipsets such as the cfx3200 dont oc that well but the nvidia nforce4 boards are monster overclockers mine hit 375MHz
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uhh, my DFI board can go well over 334...

its been over 334 too
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post #8 of 16
Opterons were made for servers, and so they were made for reliability, which usually consists of higher grade silicon. But there's no way of knowing whether it provides more OC ability...
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post #9 of 16
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yea just as long you dont have a DFI board...=S..I'm only at 280mhz and you need at least 334mhz to hit the 3.0ghz point.... and I'm stuck ='(
Nah... you just don't know what you're doing on that board. Hell -I- don't know what I'm doing with that board. It's not terribly well known. At DFI-street CPDMF is really knowledgeable on the CFX3200. He's practically a BIOS beta tester on that board. Contact him. I almost bought his CFX from him but he balked because he won't sell a board with a bunk ULI raid controller.

With DFIs it's not easy... once you finally get a feel for the board, it'll take you farther than pretty much ANY of the others.. including the NF4s.

Yes, on the 939 socket, Opterons are JUST PLAIN BETTER. The worst stepping Opterons are easily as OCable as the average hohum X-2. They are simply screened and speed binned at much lower frequencies than what they would were they a x-2. This is to ensure that they are ultra stable, even in amazingly hot environments.
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post #10 of 16
grr...and dfi street is bunked at the moment...ACK...I'm starting to wish i got the Asus board now...
 
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