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Originally Posted by Rollergold View Post

Any of those bay res's will work fine the, cheapest one would be The XSPC with the single D5 Alphacool Pump @ 150.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11219/ex-res-232/XSPC_Dual_525_Bay_Reservoir_-_Laing_D5_MCP655_w_Blue_LED_Light_-_Clear_Silver_Black.html?tl=g30c107s152#blank.

For 5 dollars less an EK tube res with D5 Vario is also an option
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21022/ex-pmp-251/EK_D5_X-RES_Top_100_w_D5_Vario_Pump_EK-D5_Vario_X-RES_100_incl_pump.html?tl=g30c107s152

but to be honest you're going be spending 145+ to be sure for your res and pump be it a combo or not unless you want to look on Ebay.

Oh i see now. Could i get an MCP35B and a 30 dollar res, that comes up to about 110-115 total. That would work fine as well too ?
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D5s (aka MCP-655, PMP450, etc) are a little less noisy than a DDC (aka MCP35x, PMP400) and also run a bit cooler. D5s displace most of their heat into the water. DDC displaces it's heat through the base. and it can get fairly hot - hot enough several manufacturers sell heatsinks for them.

D5 has higher flow rate. DDC has higher head pressure.

Which is better is a 'Tastes great!' vs 'Less filling!' argument. Both are reliable - it's often said the D5 is more reliable than a DDC but evidence of that? I dunno? What I do know is either a D5 or DDC pump is a great choice and will work by itself with the majority of loops with a couple rads, cpu block and a couple gpu blocks. If you're going to add blocks to your mobo and your ram and three or more GPUs and whatever else then you might actually want to have a 2nd pump, but for the most part dual pump setups are more for redundancy in case one fails.

Whether or not you go for a pump and res by itself or in a combo is purely up to your personal tastes and what you have room for in your case. For example, I do not like bay res's much if at all, but that's just me mostly based on looks and what I like/don't like. I have read where bay res's can be harder to fill and remove air, but I've never had a bay res to be able to compare it.

I do really like some of the tube res / pump combos, especially the new glass XSPC Photon / D5 vario combo, but the EK-D5 Vario X-RES is alright too I suppose. Luv it! Disclaimer: I already own a Photon 270 D5 combo that's going in the new build I'm currently working on, so I'm not unbiased. tongue.gif

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I do see a couple advantages to having a res / pump combo over having them separate.
1. They simplify the loop for a cleaner look. (imho)
2. They save you the extra cost of two fittings, which depending on what fittings you are using can be a few coin. (fact)

Cheers.
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Originally Posted by Aesthethc View Post

Oh i see now. Could i get an MCP35B and a 30 dollar res, that comes up to about 110-115 total. That would work fine as well too ?
Ya that would work fine but I personally would get the
MCP35X if you're going for a silence priority build with a DDC pump.
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D5s (aka MCP-655, PMP450, etc) are a little less noisy than a DDC (aka MCP35x, PMP400) and also run a bit cooler. D5s displace most of their heat into the water. DDC displaces it's heat through the base. and it can get fairly hot - hot enough several manufacturers sell heatsinks for them.

D5 has higher flow rate. DDC has higher head pressure.

Which is better is a 'Tastes great!' vs 'Less filling!' argument. Both are reliable - it's often said the D5 is more reliable than a DDC but evidence of that? I dunno? What I do know is either a D5 or DDC pump is a great choice and will work by itself with the majority of loops with a couple rads, cpu block and a couple gpu blocks. If you're going to add blocks to your mobo and your ram and three or more GPUs and whatever else then you might actually want to have a 2nd pump, but for the most part dual pump setups are more for redundancy in case one fails.

Whether or not you go for a pump and res by itself or in a combo is purely up to your personal tastes and what you have room for in your case. For example, I do not like bay res's much if at all, but that's just me mostly based on looks and what I like/don't like. I have read where bay res's can be harder to fill and remove air, but I've never had a bay res to be able to compare it.

I do really like some of the tube res / pump combos, especially the new glass XSPC Photon / D5 vario combo, but the EK-D5 Vario X-RES is alright too I suppose. Luv it! Disclaimer: I already own a Photon 270 D5 combo that's going in the new build I'm currently working on, so I'm not unbiased. tongue.gif

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I do see a couple advantages to having a res / pump combo over having them separate.
1. They simplify the loop for a cleaner look. (imho)
2. They save you the extra cost of two fittings, which depending on what fittings you are using can be a few coin. (fact)

Cheers.

Thanks you answered a lot of my questions. biggrin.gif

I think i might buy a PMP 450 from a person so ill probably use that and get a radiator. Ive been watching some videos and ive noticed how the water splurges into the reservoir and it sounds like ... a toilet water flushing ? or...a water filter in a fish tank? How do i pick a reservoir that wont do this? Do i pick a bigger one ? Like a 250ml instead of a 80ml res?

Ok one last noob question, in a custom loop does the water going into the reservoir need to be cooled by a radiator previously in the loop? Or does it just not matter? rolleyes.gif Im thinking about making my first custom loop very soon....
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Thanks you answered a lot of my questions. biggrin.gif

I think i might buy a PMP 450 from a person so ill probably use that and get a radiator. Ive been watching some videos and ive noticed how the water splurges into the reservoir and it sounds like ... a toilet water flushing ? or...a water filter in a fish tank? How do i pick a reservoir that wont do this? Do i pick a bigger one ? Like a 250ml instead of a 80ml res?

Ok one last noob question, in a custom loop does the water going into the reservoir need to be cooled by a radiator previously in the loop? Or does it just not matter? rolleyes.gif Im thinking about making my first custom loop very soon....
What res are you considering. Most res have a baffle or anti-vortex inlet in them to keep that from happening and to keep air from being sucked in pump it only works though if inlet and outlet are on opposite sides of the baffle though. As for loop order unless you're running a parallel loop the water will have flown through all of the radiators before it gets back to res. So it really doesn't matter except your pump NEEDS to be fed directly from your res and be below it as well so your pump never runs dry as a pump that runs dry will = 1 dead pump.
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post #16 of 16
I prefer a combo, it saves space, makes the loop cleaner (for me personally), and apparently it has a bit better flow rate. XSPC has a tube (d5 photon) and dual bay (d5 dual bays) reservoir+pump combo, I prefer these.
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