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Is there a decent cooler for me? I cant clear 14cm, because of a side fan, which is needed, so something like 12cm would be nice, or even just a regular heatsink. I only really need to cool just about 5C more. Is there anything out there for my case? The mobo is a GA-78LMT-USB3



Thanks.

In the past the True Spirit was suggested, but even that wont fit.
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Price range would be helpful.

Tower coolers are usually taller than 140mm.

Or go with a downflow / pancake cooler. Noctua NH-C14 & Phanteks PH-TC14CS with only bottom fan. Enermax ETD-T60-TB; Thermalright AXP-100 & AXP-200; Prolimatech Samuel 17; Zalman CNPS8900; Scythe Zipang, Big Shuriken 2, Kozuti, Shuriken Rev.B & Rasetsu SCRT-1000; etc.
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Is there a decent cooler for me? I cant clear 14cm, because of a side fan, which is needed, so something like 12cm would be nice, or even just a regular heatsink. I only really need to cool just about 5C more. Is there anything out there for my case? The mobo is a GA-78LMT-USB3



Thanks.

In the past the True Spirit was suggested, but even that wont fit.
Perhaps consider one of AMD's old AM2 stock fan variants? I find this exact fan tends to do quite well far as cooling is concerned and fits well within dimensions for most purposes. It was the only good heatsink they put out that actually performed before they started cutting fin count, size, heatpipes, etc.

Depending on the case though (board lays flat or horizontal) I find inverting the fan in the opposite direction makes a large positive impact in temps.Swapping out the fan for a higher CFM model also makes a sizable difference.
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Ok, price isnt a concern to me. Thanks for the big list, i checked em all out online, but some are 14cm. I like the pancake style ones. The think ones that are parallell with the mobo appeal to me more, are they really better at cooling?

Also, would like something I dont have to take to my local computer guy, i want to do it myself, so that means not taking out the MOBO, a quick fix a novice can do, because if I upgrade, I go to him i'll probably upgrade the chip to a 6300 and get a new velociraptor HDD, dont wanna be tempted to spend.
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Ok, price isnt a concern to me. Thanks for the big list, i checked em all out online, but some are 14cm. I like the pancake style ones. The think ones that are parallell with the mobo appeal to me more, are they really better at cooling?

Also, would like something I dont have to take to my local computer guy, i want to do it myself, so that means not taking out the MOBO, a quick fix a novice can do, because if I upgrade, I go to him i'll probably upgrade the chip to a 6300 and get a new velociraptor HDD, dont wanna be tempted to spend.
Which ones do you mean?
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Ok, price isnt a concern to me. Thanks for the big list, i checked em all out online, but some are 14cm. I like the pancake style ones. The think ones that are parallell with the mobo appeal to me more, are they really better at cooling?

Also, would like something I dont have to take to my local computer guy, i want to do it myself, so that means not taking out the MOBO, a quick fix a novice can do, because if I upgrade, I go to him i'll probably upgrade the chip to a 6300 and get a new velociraptor HDD, dont wanna be tempted to spend.
The pancake style ones aren't 'better at cooling' the CPU but they are more convenient as an overall 'great choice' due to cooling the other board components. The other types (tower for instance) cool the CPU better but tend not to cool the other components such as the VRM and NorthBridge as much which can lead to board failure over a far shorter time if one has weak cooling on either of them to begin with if additional spot cooling is not applied (which takes even more space in already cramped situations with a massive heatsink)..
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The pancake style ones aren't 'better at cooling' the CPU but they are more convenient as an overall 'great choice' due to cooling the other board components. The other types (tower for instance) cool the CPU better but tend not to cool the other components such as the VRM and NorthBridge as much which can lead to board failure over a far shorter time if one has weak cooling on either of them to begin with if additional spot cooling is not applied (which takes even more space in already cramped situations with a massive heatsink)..
I've found tower cooler to not have a problem cooling motherboard components. i7 920 and i7 980 motherboards are notorious for running hot... mine run 47-52c. The problem with pancake coolers is it is impossible to remove their heated exhaust air without it mixing with case air. With tower coolers make it much easier to do.
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I've found tower cooler to not have a problem cooling motherboard components. i7 920 and i7 980 motherboards are notorious for running hot... mine run 47-52c. The problem with pancake coolers is it is impossible to remove their heated exhaust air without it mixing with case air. With tower coolers make it much easier to do.
Of course and you're absolutely right about the case flow but it depends strongly on the style of case to determine how the flow works out with them [vertical versus horizontal, normal versus inverted fan flow]. As for the other components - while it is true you may not have any real issues with them cooling the components on an intel board... mATX AMD boards simply do not seem to get the luxury of more VRM phases (and often a heatsink) on them to handle the strain. Compared to Intel in the majority of cases this leads to premature failure when deviating from top-down cooling when using higher end processors and in some boards outright failure.

Had an mATX with VRM failure due to heat issues myself with an ASrock board in the recent past. Though it's likely more so paranoia over being more careful now than I used to be. redface.gif
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