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I've got the rig as shown in my sig.
In essence:
- Xeon W3520
- ASUS R2G
- 6GB Crucial 1333 + 12GB G.Skill NT 1333

Lately, I have been experiencing a few problems.
It all started when I bought a USB fan and plugged it in on the rear I/O panel on the motherboard.
The PC would boot properly into Windows and about 4-5 minutes in, the system would lock up. Hard drive light stops flickering and goes completely off, the fans stick to their RPM and stop fluctuating with the temperature, the mouse stops moving and the Num Lock LED stays on as I have it. The only way out is a hard reset.
Prior to this, the system was running smoothly with no problems at all.
I then unplugged the fan and plugged it in on my Dell U2311H monitor. This problem then went away.

A few rounds of chkdsk /r and sfc /scannow thereby verified that the files were intact and safe for use.
A few days later, I was playing Team Fortress 2 when I noticed horrible crackling sounds coming through the speakers. I have a HiVi H2S + H6 connected to the PC via a HiFiMeDIY dongle-style ESS9023 DAC.
The game sounds were choppy and the rate of crackling increased with mouse movement. Somehow, this affected the visuals too - I got huge FPS drops and plenty of stuttering and jitter.
I exited the game and went on YouTube - and even that experienced crackling, choppy sound (like a dirty vinyl) and choppy video playback.
The USB DAC was removed and sound re-routed to onboard. It was peace for five minutes and then it started again.
Somehow, a restart solved the problem.

Fast forward to today. I was playing TF2 once again and the sound problems came back - even on onboard audio. I thought I'd just try and see how many kills I could get with my remaining hp when the system froze and locked up just as it had when the USB fan was plugged directly into the motherboard. I decided to go into the motherboard and mess with some settings.
Original settings were as such:
- CPU Multi 20x
- BCLK 150MHz
- DRAM 1202MHz
- DRAM Freq 8-8-8-24 @ 1202
- CPU Volts 1.10V absolute, LLC enabled
- All CPU features such as HT, C-States, Turbo Boost are enabled. This is because I want it to throttle down when I'm not pressing it hard and reduce the noise and heat emission levels in the room.

I changed the settings such that the DRAM was raised back to 9-9-9-27 even at its loose 1202MHz speed, and the CPUV to Auto. It got hotter but if it does net me stability, whatever.
Went back in game, and it was fine.
Shut down, went out, came home, turn on and back to game.
Gamed for awhile when the problems came back.
This time, I alt-tabbed when the sound started to get choppy to see if anything was eating up my CPU.
Suddenly, all the windows vanished and it just said 'Shutting Down' as if I had hit the power button. It then proceeded to peacefully shut down on its own.

I am completely baffled here.
I hate it when it just locks up in fear of messing up the file system, but I don't want it to shut itself off when I'm in the midst of something either.

Hardware tested:
- My HD6950 GPU checked out OK on another rig. OCCT'd for 10 hours and its totally fine, no OC and no OV at all. Previous owner unlocked it to 6970 but it was locked back to stock prior to the sale.
- All RAM sticks checked out OK on Memtest on another rig.
- Hard Drive is completely healthy for a WD - the 10 'zero values' are in their places and this drive only has 1960 hours on it as of the time of this post.
- Power supply is doing fine - all volts checked with a under full load and are within ATX spec. Of course, ripple is beyond my control since I do not have an O-scope but it is a reputable FSP Aurum 700 unit.

I am completely baffled by this. The Dell monitor isolates the power circuitry when its USB hub is connected to the PC. The only reason for PC USB power to have an effect on the monitor, is to determine the operation of the Dell's USB hub when the monitor is in standby mode. Otherwise, each port produces 1A at 5V. The fan contains no data wiring or equipment whatsoever so this problem has been ruled out already.

What could be the issue here?
I'd hate for it to be my mobo or CPU and at this stage it seems likely, but one does not simply come across an X58 or a bunch of X58 parts everyday for testing...

Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.
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Sounds like your motherboard is having a fit

Cant tell you for sure if it is the motherboard or not
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If your testing RAM try to test it in the computer that has problems (could be a bad DIMM slot). Anyways if i had to guess it sounds like the motherboard is on its last legs.
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shilka View Post

Sounds like your motherboard is having a fit

Cant tell you for sure if it is the motherboard or not

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Originally Posted by loud681 View Post

If your testing RAM try to test it in the computer that has problems (could be a bad DIMM slot). Anyways if i had to guess it sounds like the motherboard is on its last legs.

That is sad.
My impression of Asus has gone right down the crapper over the past one year.
If this motherboard with less than 1,000 hours on it is 'on its last legs' then I don't know what to say.
The previous R2G blew ALL of its fan MOSFETs when I inserted an 8800GT as a PhysX card alongside the 6870 I had at that time. It was queer and shocking and I was left completely disgusted as to how the addition of a graphics card would cause the fan MOSFETs to literally blow with loud bangs. Scorch marks were left on my CM341 chassis which was what I had back then.
I received this brand new R2G as a replacement for the one that blew and this has done less than a thousand - note that the 1960-hour WD5001AALS is the hard drive that was used from the time this rig was assembled in Jan 2010.

I have another ASUS motherboard - a P7H55-M/USB3 that has been nothing but trouble too. You guys may have read about it.
- First unit I had would recognise 12GB of RAM standing up - but only 6GB when laid on its side. And as a HTPC the chassis HAS to be laid on its side.
- Second unit would keep telling me 'New CPU detected' every once in awhile, and locked up every now and then for no reason even though my i5 760 had a modest OC to 3.0
- Swapped the chip thinking it was faulty, got an i5 661 AND a third motherboard. This time, it refused to save any BIOS settings except the time and date. Every time I had the AC power off, it erased ALL my settings including the SATA adapters in AHCI mode, and the underclock to 3.00GHz.
- Fourth unit is now with me and the i5 661 ES which I presumed to be faulty, was swapped for an i5 650. It worked fine for about 400 hours and then one day just locked up when I came out of the shower. Following that, it locked up the next day and subsequently locked up even in the BIOS. 3 days later, it would not even power up. Onboard LED indicated it was getting power, but there was no way it could be poked to start. Warranty is over.

EDIT: And yes, all the RAM and the CPU checked out fine on a Dell/Foxconn HM57...

I am sick of this crap from Asus...
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Give Gigabyte a try for your next Motherboard purchase.
 
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Give Gigabyte a try for your next Motherboard purchase.

Highly expensive in Singapore though I appreciate the quality.
Trying ASRock for now. Fan control is one department in which ASRock absolutely obliterates all else.
The pricing in Singapore is also VERY reasonable compared to 'flagship brands'
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