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I should also clarify on my previous statement. I admittedly didn't read the source, and assumed that this could eventually unlock phones currently locked in contract. If that isn't the case, I am flat wrong, and either way admittedly foolish for not reading it first. If it does unlock phones currently under contract, which is what I had in my head, the carriers would raise costs to accomodate their losses from people suddenly breaking their contracts without pay (which happens all the time here) to take their newly unlocked phone to a different carrier.

they could just include this in the contract. though whether they would "need" to do this is debatable. i mean we already pay 2x as much, whether or not we get a new phone every 2 years. they must be making a killing of all the people who don't change their phones.
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I never said it was a good deal. But over here, we don't pay less for using non-contract phones, or I would do that. T-Mobile is the only major carrier in my area that offers lower prices because they ditched contract phones, but they have dodgy service here. If we get lower monthlies, I'm all for it. I'm just saying that the US as a whole doesn't understand the concept of subsidized pricing and feels they should be "entitled" to a new $200 latest and greatest phone every other year.

Are you sure they aren't just getting new ones because the mandatory bloatware "provided" is killing them with near clockwork predictability?
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While the rest of the world wonder wth.gif at why you can't unlock your phones in the US like everywhere else....


At a cost to the user, yeah.

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Thats good for the US.
Most phone providers in DK dont have any sim lock, even when you buy them with a contract.
Phone with out a contract is cheaper, but ofc it require a high payment.
So a phone with a contract that is unlocked is great, this means you can get the phone from a different provider on a contract, but you can still use your much cheaper contract from a different provider.
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I never said it was a good deal. But over here, we don't pay less for using non-contract phones, or I would do that. T-Mobile is the only major carrier in my area that offers lower prices because they ditched contract phones, but they have dodgy service here. If we get lower monthlies, I'm all for it. I'm just saying that the US as a whole doesn't understand the concept of subsidized pricing and feels they should be "entitled" to a new $200 latest and greatest phone every other year.

What are you talking about?

AT&T have their own contract free offers called Go Phone(-$35 per month versus equivalent on contract plan ) and there are various MVNOs such as straight talk that use the 4 major carrier's towers and offer prepaid services.

That's the main reason I switched from a AT&T locked GS4(sold to cover the cost of my Nexus 5) to buying a Nexus 5 off contract and use AT&T Go Phone, despite paying a $265 ETF I am on track to save $365(in addition to paying back the ETF) in the next 18month. The same unlimited text/call/2GB data plan I was charged $95/month+tax+fee by AT&T on contract now only cost $60+tax+ no fee.

Staying on contract when you have existing prepaid/contract free options is just wasting money.
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BTW, even if you unlock a phone you got in a contract, saying that this will increase prices might be a bit exaggerated since you still have to pay the monthly bill. Your phone may actually be unlocked to use whatever carrier you want, but you still either have to pay the bill from carrier or you have to pay the early termination fee. I guess this helps people who travel quite a bit, just pop in a prepaid SIM card and go when you get to your desired country.
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BTW, even if you unlock a phone you got in a contract, saying that this will increase prices might be a bit exaggerated since you still have to pay the monthly bill. Your phone may actually be unlocked to use whatever carrier you want, but you still either have to pay the bill from carrier or you have to pay the early termination fee. I guess this helps people who travel quite a bit, just pop in a prepaid SIM card and go when you get to your desired country.

The upshot of paying the ETF is that you can go off-contract and save substantially with a prepaid plan than a oncontract plan(In some cases the ETF gets paid off way before when you contract would end and you end up profiting). Plus when you sale you phone, a SIM unlocked phone have more value than a locked phone.
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