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I hope Dell sells a bunch of these.... So they can have a bunch of A- panels that Korean vendors can use for cheap 4k monitors.
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My life is now complete.

I wonder if it's 60hz though.
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My life is now complete.

I wonder if it's 60hz though.

No it's only 31 Hz.
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24 incher? why would anyone buy it?
Edited by nitrubbb - 11/30/13 at 2:00am
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The screen hasn't officially appeared on Dell's UK or US websites, but the price listed on the link below is about $5400 USD (ouch!). More info on pricing and release date as we get it.
http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=hk&cs=hkdhs1&l=en&s=dhs&sku=210-ACBV&ACD=10550055-3891137-rewrite&AID=3891137

Source http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/29.htm#dell_up3214q_2
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The 32" is available in the US for 3500$. This lucky man has it:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1438616/dell-dell-ultrasharp-32-3840x2160-igzo-lcd/130#post_21274730
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24 incher more expensive than 32 - what biggrin.gif
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They will be enabled under what's called DPI virtualization where Windows will apply artificial scaling. This means that yes, their program elements will appear blurry, and it is possible that UI elements will not correctly fit and things can look a little messy. Unfortunately this comes from the many applications that are too lazy to implement proper scaling in their user interfaces, and comes as a side effect of Windows applications using bitmaps for UI.

An application is able to tell Windows that it is DPI aware - this means that things will scale properly (Window sizes, fonts) but the application is responsible for providing proper sized elements for things that the system cannot automatically correct (bitmaps).

This is only the case for Win32 applications (and by extension WinForms applications running atop the .NET framework) which use GDI+ for rendering. DirectX is a tad different.

So a non-DPI aware application always render at 96 DPI even when the DPI is set higher. The application always thinks it is running at 96 DPI, but the Desktop Window Manager automatically scales the applications to account for the high DPI (this is called DPI virtualization). Because it is quite a compatibility fix, the result is a tad unpleasing and is indeed blurry. All this does it prevent readability issues because the text and UI elements are too small. The type of scaling that DPI virtualization uses when scaling up in size is based on pixel stretching. While this enables applications to be appropriately sized, blurriness occurs due to the stretched pixels. The type of scaling that DPI virtualization uses when scaling down in size is based on pixel sampling. While this enables applications to be appropriately sized, some wash-out or loss of information occurs due to the sampling of pixels.

Virtualization is not able to solve all application issues due to the differences in application behavior throughout the entire ecosystem.

Windows 8.1 now introduces per-monitor DPI, but you may disable it if necessary in the control panel. There is a lot of work an application must perform to make itself work correctly with high DPI - they include listening for DPI changes, providing DPI aware sized bitmaps, using system APIs to calculate sizes, positions and various other metrics (rather than hard coding assuming 96 DPI), and now in Windows 8.1 with per-monitor DPI, applications have to do some work to support this, however if they already support system wide high-DPI the task is not complex.

Thanks for the information.

 

It doesn't seem to work quite like OS X, then. Applications in OS X that don't support scaling have no compatibility issues -- they're just blurry (comparatively, because everything else is so sharp.)

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Thanks for the information.

It doesn't seem to work quite like OS X, then. Applications in OS X that don't support scaling have no compatibility issues -- they're just blurry (comparatively, because everything else is so sharp.)

Technically those applications in OS X that don't support scaling are under the same compatibility constraints as Windows ones (the ones that don't support scaling are also blurry because of DPI virtualization). However there's some other problems that can arise (which is the application's fault), but for the most part DPI virtualization does a pretty good job for legacy applications.
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24 incher more expensive than 32 - what biggrin.gif

It's harder to compress that many pixels into a smaller space.

Just like it's harder to make 14nm CPUs than 22nm...
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