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Well, I guess good price is subjective. I have had my U2711 for a long time, so I guess it has paid off. I bought it from Dell for $1134.

Hmm interesting, not sure how you managed to get it at 1100 with the coupon apparently having expired, but more power to you. I was thinking about applying for a preferred account and ordering one of these, but it says they won't even ship out till the 22nd anyways for me. I think I will just wait and see if by some miracle the 28 inch is not actually locked to 30hz at 4k.

The Dell 28 inch 4K is limited to 30hz at 4k and is a TN panel. Forget it. Look at Lenovo's 28 inch 4k, hopefully it has 60 Hz 4k support.

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The Dell 28 inch 4K is limited to 30hz at 4k and is a TN panel. Forget it. Look at Lenovo's 28 inch 4k, hopefully it has 60 Hz 4k support.

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Plus I believe the Lenovo is a TN panel as well. At the price of these monitors, TN would kill the viewing angles and colors.
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The Dell 28 inch 4K is limited to 30hz at 4k and is a TN panel. Forget it. Look at Lenovo's 28 inch 4k, hopefully it has 60 Hz 4k support.

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Yeah but outside of some random guy on Forbes who first said the monitor was IPS, where else is there confirmation it is not 60hz? I can't seem to find any other source except ones quoting him who say so. I know it's TN, but I am willing to put up with that to get the extra 4 inches and 500$ off. IIRC the Lenovo is also TN and does not ship till Q2 anyways (and I want to get a new monitor within a couple of weeks). If it is officially confirmed locked to 30hz I will probably just order the Ultrasharp.
 
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I think 4k monitors will be somewhat cheaper once 4k/60hz timing controllers comes out, so the circuitry behind these monitors can be simple and likely lead to cheaper 60hz monitors. But of course they'll be crappy TN panels. Speaking of which, where are the Korean 4k monitors? You can theoretically just make a monitor with only Displayport and cut out the USB 3 and HDMI stuff. That'll make it a pure monitor with none of the fluff. I know I'm probably not gonna use the USB 3 ports on my UP2414Q, its a pain in the butt to access it *groan* why is it not on the sides instead?

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I think 4k monitors will be somewhat cheaper once 4k/60hz timing controllers comes out, so the circuitry behind these monitors can be simple and likely lead to cheaper 60hz monitors. But of course they'll be crappy TN panels. Speaking of which, where are the Korean 4k monitors? You can theoretically just make a monitor with only Displayport and cut out the USB 3 and HDMI stuff. That'll make it a pure monitor with none of the fluff. I know I'm probably not gonna use the USB 3 ports on my UP2414Q, its a pain in the butt to access it *groan* why is it not on the sides instead?

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I doubt they will pop up for a while. It took a while for the 27 inch 1440p pannels to circulate because there were many more being produced. A Korean friend of mine told me that the 1440p is a popular resolution and they are made by LG, so there were many produced. Even the 1600p screens took a while to come down in price and they aren't actually too different from purchasing a refurbished U3014. This screen size isn't very common and I'm sure it is more costly than the TN panels, which will probably be more popular. The more the big manufacturers like Dell, Asus, and Lenovo sell, the more panels will be produced, and a number of them won't make the "cut" and will end up as the Korean monitors. I doubt the IGZO panel in the 32 inch will be sold for cheap for some time. It is made by Sharp and is newer tech. I don't know what panel is in the U2414Q. I also don't think these Dell monitors will be that popular. Everyone is raving over high refresh rates and the market is starting to accept 1440p as being more mainstream now. 4k is like what 1440p and 1600p were a couple years ago.
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Mine came in yesterday and I gotta say for $1400 I'm NOT impressed, but its just my opinion. For people considering 4K.......first off lets consider the fact that at some point there will be g-sync 4k or possibly korean 4k and much better prices due to competition. 4K looks good, dont get me wrong, but it's not the step up from 1440p I thought it would be. Scaling for bigger text drives windows nuts, my display doesn't like sleep mode and some games won't even support the res or if they do they are prone to crashing although I can only speak from my experience. Finally the small fortune in gpu's needed to run it. 4k compared to 1440, for me, is diminishing returns.
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Well, it is diminished returns, considering that u are jumping from 3.6 million pixels to 8.3 million pixels. Yes it is more detailed, but lets look at the jump from 720p to 1080p, we were more wowed by that because 720p was such a low resolution to begin with that 1080p seemed so clear by comparison.

But well, I am still drooling at 4k myself, the details are delicious and all that. Have u tried some games like farcry 3 or whatever?

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Well, it is diminished returns, considering that u are jumping from 3.6 million pixels to 8.3 million pixels. Yes it is more detailed, but lets look at the jump from 720p to 1080p, we were more wowed by that because 720p was such a low resolution to begin with that 1080p seemed so clear by comparison.

But well, I am still drooling at 4k myself, the details are delicious and all that. Have u tried some games like farcry 3 or whatever?

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Well I hope you continue to enjoy it chrono thumb.gif 1080p to 1440p was more dramatic for me. Tried batman origins, crysis 3, max payne, bf3, shadow warrior. Max payne reported 11gbs of VRAM eek.gif with MSAA turned on. Can't play quake-live at this res frown.gif Looks great, but I find MSAA really makes it pop, too bad we need GPU's from the future to run it maxed out
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4K is quite a jump over 1440P. The clarity on a 4K 24" is just crazy. Try windows 8.1, it looks fabulous and does proper scaling. Although, some programs/apps don't handle high DPI all that well. Such as unmodified Chrome, Steam etc...

One thing I HAVE noticed is that in a proper environment like windows with text etc, the clarity is night and day. In games, it is harder to "realize" the higher clarity versus 1440P. Honestly, for games I think the 1440P 120 Hz 27" Asus G-Sync will be a better monitor. But that will require almost as much GPU power as this 4K at 60 Hz.
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4K is quite a jump over 1440P. The clarity on a 4K 24" is just crazy. Try windows 8.1, it looks fabulous and does proper scaling. Although, some programs/apps don't handle high DPI all that well. Such as unmodified Chrome, Steam etc...

One thing I HAVE noticed is that in a proper environment like windows with text etc, the clarity is night and day. In games, it is harder to "realize" the higher clarity versus 1440P. Honestly, for games I think the 1440P 120 Hz 27" Asus G-Sync will be a better monitor. But that will require almost as much GPU power as this 4K at 60 Hz.

I've got the monitor on an arm, so scaling doesn't really bother me as I can adjust distance to whatever I want. This monitor is VERY clear and the colors are the best I've ever seen but it has trouble waking up from sleep and this split screen thing is just primitive. I know future scaling will be better, there's hdmi 2.0 or whatever coming down the line with better bandwidth, g-sync, gpu's, more functionality and probably better prices. I'd be willing to give that Asus a shot but from videos I can kind of tell that TN panel is going to disappoint me beyond reason.
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