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Hello everyone.

Before I get started here I'd like to let you know this is my first time posting here; as such, if I've placed this post in the wrong section or otherwise made a mistake please let me know and I'll change it right away.

So, as the title says, I am planning out a build featuring the I7-4770k and the GTX 780ti in 2 way SLI. Additionally, I will be overclocking and utilizing a custom water cooling loop. Over the past month or so I've done some general research on both overclocking and water cooling and have almost everything planned out so this will mostly be to double check for any errors or details I've overlooked.

Initially I had only planned on using an AIO CPU cooler, like the H100i; however, I came across an ongoing build log that was almost identical to my specs which inspired me to go through with a custom loop. [Build Log] i7-4770k - GTX 780 Ti SLI - Corsair 750D - Custom Liquid Cooling I have made minor changes for asthetics (acetal vs plexi) that shouldn't effect functionality but I do have a few concerns.

1. From everything I've read, de-ionized + colored tubing is the way to go. How similar is primochill's blood red to the ROG red? If dissimilar, what tubing color, or if you're certain it won't cause staining or other issues what coolant/dye will do the job?
2. From what I can tell the 820 should have plenty of room for internal rads and fans but I couldn't find any pictures or videos to confirm. Will I have enough room?
3. By far my biggest worry. I would like to include the formula's built in cross chill feature. The issue is that it uses aluminum which reacts with the other metals in the loop; however, I've seen that if I use proper coolant/additives that it is a non issue. Is that information accurate? If so, what coolants would work best? (Preferably those that are red, though red tubing can solve that issue if need be)
4. If I do include the cross chill will there be any other issues, such as the pump not being strong enough?
5. I plan on my loop order being: Res>pump>280mmrad>gpu in parallel>[crosschill]>360mmrad>cpu> Any obvious improvement?
6. I would like to use chrome/silver/platinum looking compression fittings, although the black color on Brandon6199's build wouldnt be too bad. According to his post he will use 8 regular fittings and 2 45 degree angle fittings. With cross chill I would only need 2 additional regular fittings correct? I also couldn't see where he was using the 45 degree fittings, how likely am I to need them considering I will have a slightly different layout? Is it worth it to buy them just incase?

Thanks in advance for your input. If all goes well I should be able to order this monday and if I can manage it I'll do a build log as well.

Primary components
RAM: 2x 8GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 2133 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233401

Water cooling components
Compression Fittings: TBD
post #2 of 6
Good list of parts. You've done some homework.

1. Primochill's Advanced LRT, distilled, and a biocide like PT_Nuke or Dead Water would get my vote.

2. I'm not familiar with the Phantom 820. If you are unsure or have any trouble finding out what fits for sure (maybe scour & or post a question in the Phantom owner's thread) then you might want to consider getting a known watercooling friendly case like an Enthoo Primo or a Switch 810 or a 900D ... My vote would go for the Enthoo Primo, but that's just me.
Phanteks Enthoo Primo: Watercooling Possibilities: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1RzXMZ8BNI thumb.gif
Unless of course you can afford a caselabs case, and in that case, you'd be crazy to get anything else.

3. If you are worried about the galvinized aluminum channel in the MVIF EK has released a new replacement ..
http://www.ekwb.com/news/429/19/EK-introduces-ASUS-Maximus-VI-Formula-water-block-kit/
If I was going to cool that board that's the direction I'd go.

4. D5 vario pump is plenty. Good choice.

5. Res before & higher than pump is all that matters. The rest of your loop should follow whatever order you think looks best / cleanest.

6. Can't really comment on the fittings choice. You will need at least two fittings for every item in your loop, an in and an out. When you get in tight places like cooling the mobo too you may need to get creative to make it work. Tubing can only bend so far before it kinks, in which case you might need a 45 or 90 deg rotary to make it work. Consulting other's builds with the same board can definitely help.
Edited by Unicr0nhunter - 11/30/13 at 6:17am
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1 I also agree with primochill advanced lrt, I use it and it works well. Straight distilled with a biocide. If you are in Canada Dazmode sells their own anti corrosive/biocide additive that works wonders.

4. Agreed d5 pump is very strong.

The rest of your points I can't answer to as I have no experience with the listed hardware but it sounds like everything will work out well thumb.gif
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
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Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
OCZ Vertex 3 SSD Seagate Barracuda LG Super Multi XSPC Raystorm laing ddc 3.25, ex 240 Swiftech X... 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8.1 Pro LG 24inch led Backlit Corsair K60 XFX 850WPro Fully Modular 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Bitfenix Ronin Steel Series Sensei Razer Goliathus Steel Series Siberius V2 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3770k Msi z77 mpower EVGA GTX 980 Corsair Dominator 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
WD Blue OCZ Vertex 3 SSD Custom Water Cooling, Darkside 6 port reservoir... Windows 8.1 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG 24 inch 1080P CM Quickfire Rapid, custom keys from WASD XFX Pro Fully modular 850W Gold Corsair Air 540 
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Wooooooow that Entoo Prime is massive, I don't think I could use half of the space it offers. I think I'll stick with the 820 since it looks like it has room for either 360mm or 420mm rad up top. And I did see the EK motherboard block, but it doesn't seem available on FrozenCPU. Do they update their stock frequently or should I look to another source? I'm in Florida if that has any bearing on options.

Edit: Looks like I misread, 820 only supports 360 up top. Still plenty for me though.
Edited by Brokkenarmour - 11/30/13 at 3:02pm
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Originally Posted by Brokkenarmour View Post

Wooooooow that Entoo Prime is massive, I don't think I could use half of the space it offers. I think I'll stick with the 820 since it looks like it has room for either 360mm or 420mm rad up top. And I did see the EK motherboard block, but it doesn't seem available on FrozenCPU. Do they update their stock frequently or should I look to another source? I'm in Florida if that has any bearing on options.

Edit: Looks like I misread, 820 only supports 360 up top. Still plenty for me though.


FWIW: Enthoo Primo is not a huge full tower. Nowhere as large as a Cosmos 2 or a 900D or most any other large full tower case. The Enthoo Primo is actually VERY close to the same size as a Phantom 820.


Phantom 820: 9.25" x 25.59" x 24.09" (W x H x D)
Enthoo Primo: 9.84" x 25.59" x 23.62" (W x H x D)

Enthoo Primo is just designed much better for watercooling without having to mod your case.

For example, you can put up to a push-pull 480 rad in both the top and the bottom in an Enthoo Primo. Even an 80mm thick monsta 480 fits in the bottom in push-pull no problem, and a 45mm thick 480 rad in push pull will fit in the top w/ any mobo, and thanks to a healthy offset, if you don't have anything over ~54mm tall at the top of your mobo, like tall ram or heatsinks, you might even be able to fit a 60mm thick or even an 80mm monsta 480 in the top in push-pull also. Of course you wouldn't have to go that large or push-pull, but there just aren't many cases out there that are ready to accept that much rad without having to mod anything, and for all it can fit, it's really not all that big of a full tower case.
Edited by Unicr0nhunter - 12/1/13 at 5:33pm
post #6 of 6
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Hello again. Update time.

So most of my parts have arrived which allowed me to start test fitting and unfortunately there are a couple issues.

First is the pump and res. The combo part was out of stock so I instead ordered the pump [XSPC Laing D5 Vario with Front Cover (1/2” barbs)] and res [XSPC glass Photon Tube Reservoir - 170 mm] separately which means the 1-2 inches of space between the two causes clearance issues with the rad up top. To solve this I would like to switch to a bay style res or res/pump combo such as this, this, this, or this.

Alternatively I could keep the pump I have and only order a bay res, although I do like the idea of having mounting points designed to fit with no modding and having the entire unit consolidated.

Second is the mobo. Although there is an aftermarket alternative the only place that I can find to place an order is directly from the EK store. Looking at other posts it seems they have pretty reliable shipping and they quote a $35.00 shipping fee, but it is possible for there to be taxes and customs since it is coming from Europe. The only problem is the only posts I found are 2-3 years old.

Questions:
1. Any strong opinions/recommendations for bay res or will one of the linked ones do the job.
2. Am I just searching the wrong spots, is the M6F block available from a stateside reseller? If not, how likely/how expensive should I expect a direct order to EKWB (the part is listed at 101.50 with shipping at 35.07 USD)?
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