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For the holidays I am thinking about upgrading my PC as it is getting quite aged. I want to get a new motherboard ram and cpu to start. The rest i can just pick away at as i get more money. smile.gif

It will be more of a budget build so i was thinking about AMD. I'm looking to spend max $200 on the CPU and probably another 100-150 on the motherboard depending on what i will need but i want to future proof it the best i can. I would even be interested in intel but i've had AMD since my 800mhz Thunderbird slot A biggrin.gif

I'm not 100% about the whole APU thing, is it to crossfire with my videocard? I will have a good GPU to go along with this later on so i don't really need an APU i think but then again i'm not sure what they are exactly. Any suggestions would be great.

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If you're mainly gaming, I think you'd be better off upgrading the psu and gpu first.

Spend the $200 on an R9 270X,
then sell your GTS450 and 400w psu and use the money to get a 550w or better psu.

Then you can already reap the benefits and game on higher settings while you save up for the cpu and mobo upgrade.
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post #3 of 9
APUs are 4 core AMDs with a kinda crappy video card slapped in the middle. They're handy for sub $400 builds, but that's about it. Only the a10 even comes close to having enough power for real gaming, and even that is barely. The 8320 is almost the same price and is much more powerful.

The thing to watch out for with OCing amd 8 cores is not all boards have the VRM to support it. There is a VRM motherboard database stickied in the AMD motherboard section of the forum that will tell you what MoBos can be used for what.

Getting an APU to crossfire with a GPU is done on some laptops, but I have yet to see it working on a desktop. In any case they don;t really have the CPU grunt for it to begin with.

this is an option here for $310. Did you need to include memory?
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Antec KUHLER Flow CPU Cooler ($29.16 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($99.49 @ Newegg)
Total: $310.64
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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if you can do microcenter in store pickup it can get a hell of a lot cheaper though.
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post #4 of 9
You could've gotten an FX-8320 yesterday for $130. Wait till Cyber Monday to buy something because your more likely to find a deal then.
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AMD choice

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/AS5J
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/AS5J/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/AS5J/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($114.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $294.96
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Intel Choice

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/87vm
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/87vm/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/87vm/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $344.97
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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post #6 of 9
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Would the Ivy Bridge give me better PPD versus the 8320? These are the two i've pretty much boiled it down to pretty much what Pontiac said.

I've read reviews and they say that Asrock board is thin and flimsy feeling. It warped easy in their hand and flexed when even installing RAM. Has anyone owned this board personally and can put their imput on it? I'd really appreciate it.

I saw this board http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128544 I've had good luck with my current Gigabyte board.
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post #7 of 9
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Originally Posted by edalbkrad View Post

If you're mainly gaming, I think you'd be better off upgrading the psu and gpu first.

Spend the $200 on an R9 270X,
then sell your GTS450 and 400w psu and use the money to get a 550w or better psu.

Then you can already reap the benefits and game on higher settings while you save up for the cpu and mobo upgrade.

I said i wanted to upgrade my system. Currently i'm only playing Dota 2 and i max that out already ( which isn't much ) I just want a new PC is all smile.gif Plus my motherboard is DDR2 so getting ram is hard and getting more expensive. 8gb is same as 2 gb for ddr3 to ddr2
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post #8 of 9
as the red vs blue thing goes the 8320 and the 3570k are dead even in everything but single core performance where the intel wins substantially, and overclock performance where the AMD wins slightly.

Bang for the buck wise the AMD wins because it is just a lot cheaper, and only a bit slower when overclocked. (also you get 8 cores) Pure performance wise the Intel wins because many games are single thread.

the 8350 is also (a bit) cheaper than the 3570k, but has additional features that make it run neck and neck or ahead of the 3570k when both are overclocked. The price difference isn't nearly as great though. Especially when you factor in the higher cost of overclockable AMD boards.


The thing to remember is the 8320 is NOT a downclocked 8350. It's actually a different and less capable chip.
Edited by bombastinator - 11/30/13 at 9:30pm
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