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Fourteen (14) Z87 motherboards compared on the basis of 3D Mark 11 P Physics Score (i5-4670k)

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So, I was bored at work in the last two days, so what I did was browse 3D Mark 11 results and copy Physics scores achieved by the same CPU (i5-4670k) and fourteen different motherboards operated by random users.

(Technically they are fifteen but I only got a single reading from Asrock OC Formula)

I chose Physics Scores reported by users on a single GPU configuration running the following GPUS:

1. Radeon HD 7970
2. GTX 780
3. GTX 770
4. GTX 760

For those not in the know, the Physics Benchmark of the 3D Mark 11 P (Performance) Benchmark Suite only engages the CPU and is an arguably good way to compare gaming performance between different systems using the same CPU but different motherboards.

Everyone agree that RAM is a non-issue in Haswell single GPU systems, so the only variable at play here should be the different motherboard (apart from individual overclocker incompetence ofc).

I browsed around 800 individual results, weeding out non-ATX motherboards and low cost ATX motherboards. If you don't see the mobo you are interested in, that is because it is probably too expensive and thus too unpopular. Some motherboards are more popular than others. Usually, the cheaper the mobo the more popular it is.
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Motherboards in the comparison:

1. Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H-CF
2. Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H-CF
3. MSI Z87-GD65 GAMING
4. MSI Z87-G45 GAMING
5. MSI Z87-G43 GAMING
6. MSI Z87 MPOWER
7. MSI Z87 MPOWERMAX
8. ASUS MAXIMUS VI HERO
9. ASUS GRYPHON Z87
10. ASUS Z87 DELUXE
11. ASUS MAXIMUS VI FORMULA
12. ASUS MAXIMUS VI EXTREME
13. ASROCK Z87 EXTREME 4
14. ASROCK Z87 EXTREME 6

Unfortunately, some motherboards are just too unpopular and thus no conclusion can be reached as to their performance. As you will see, the more results, the easier it is to guess how an individual motherboard might perform.

1 AND 2: Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H-CF & Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H-CF



3 TO 7: MSI Z87-GD65 GAMING, MSI Z87-G45 GAMING, MSI Z87-G43 GAMING,MSI Z87 MPOWER, MSI Z87 MPOWERMAX



8 TO 12: ASUS MAXIMUS VI HERO, ASUS GRYPHON Z87, ASUS Z87 DELUXE, ASUS MAXIMUS VI FORMULA



13 & 14: ASROCK Z87 EXTREME 4, ASROCK Z87 EXTREME 6



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Results:

1. Best Overclocking Board: MSI MPOWER MAX. As you will see, they reached 5700 MHz bench stable with it.

2. Best Performers: ASUS MAXIMUS VI HERO & MSI GD 65 GAMING

The rest of the boards perform average.

I dislike Gigabyte after a very bad experience after 2 years with GA-P35-DS4, and I was sure their boards lagged behind ASUS and MSI performance-wise. As far as Asrock is concerned, average performance is to be expected from them anyway (although Asrock really tried to produce something exceptional with Asrock Z87 EXTREME 6).

Hope you guys find this helpful.
Edited by Arxontas - 11/30/13 at 11:29am
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Physics scores achieved by the same CPU (i5-4670k) and fourteen different motherboards operated by random users.

Unless it was the EXACT same CPU, and the same RAM, those results don't give any conclusive results on how the boards compare.
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Unless it was the EXACT same CPU, and the same RAM, those results don't give any conclusive results on how the boards compare.

The same model of cpu at identical clocks should be comparable across different motherboards, but it doesn't really work out here when futuremark can't report the memory specs & system memory has a large impact on the physics score.

FM can show 2 different 4.5Ghz 4670k with 8Gb of memory looking like the same specs (2 x 4Gb ddr3 800mhz), while the physics score can show a 2000 point difference from one running 1600mhz system memory while the other is at 2800mhz. FM only shows the jedec spec, not the actual memory clock.
    
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The same model of cpu at identical clocks should be comparable across different motherboards, but it doesn't really work out here when futuremark can't report the memory specs & system memory has a large impact on the physics score.

My reply was mostly about the OP's conclusion that MSI MPower Max was the best overclocker which is not true unless the CPU was the same.

And I have the exact same opinion about the memory.
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FM can show 2 different 4.5Ghz 4670k with 8Gb of memory looking like the same specs (2 x 4Gb ddr3 800mhz), while the physics score can show a 2000 point difference from one running 1600mhz system memory while the other is at 2800mhz. FM only shows the jedec spec, not the actual memory clock.

This is clearly not the case because, as you can see, the score is for the most part quite consistent with the increase of the CPU clock frequency.

If what you say was the case, then we'd get at -say- 4800 MHz figures of 9000 Physics score and next 11000 physics score which simply does not happen. There is no 2000 point difference between the scores of any motherboard at the same CPU clock frequency.

In addition, a trend that identifies higher performance and lower performance motherboards for those motherboards that we have got quite a few score entries is quite evident.

Since that same trend tends to agree with what we already know about the performance of these motherboards from numerous site reviews, then that means that the trend falls within a performance range one would logically expect these motherboards to perform.

This in turn means that the results fall in the same ballpark.

In addition, there is no way in hell I can get my memory to boost my Physics Score at 3D Mark 11 by 2000 points no matter how much I overclock it. The difference that memory makes in single GPU haswell systems is negligible.
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This is clearly not the case because, as you can see, the score is for the most part quite consistent with the increase of the CPU clock frequency.

If what you say was the case, then we'd get at -say- 4800 MHz figures of 9000 Physics score and next 11000 physics score which simply does not happen. There is no 2000 point difference between the scores of any motherboard at the same CPU clock frequency.

In addition, a trend that identifies higher performance and lower performance motherboards for those motherboards that we have got quite a few score entries is quite evident.

Since that same trend tends to agree with what we already know about the performance of these motherboards from numerous site reviews, then that means that the trend falls within a performance range one would logically expect these motherboards to perform.

This in turn means that the results fall in the same ballpark.

In addition, there is no way in hell I can get my memory to boost my Physics Score at 3D Mark 11 by 2000 points no matter how much I overclock it. The difference that memory makes in single GPU haswell systems is negligible.

I was testing the difference with memory clock using a 3770k & not haswell, I would have to re-test with a haswell to see the difference if there is one. My memory was off with 2000 point difference, 1000 points or more difference is doable though.

Memory at 1600mhz, 2133Mhz & 2400mhz with the cpu at a steady 4.0Ghz, 700 points with some memory overclocking. Just using a cheap 1600mhz kit here, with a higher end kit the difference can keep going up.

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