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So there is going to be a huge jump in iGPU this gen, so while the CPU improvement will be even more boring than Ivy was (only lower power consumption this time, seems to be no improvements in IPC), the GPU improvement will be one of the biggest ever. Intel’s Ben Widawsky says and I quote, "Broadwell graphics bring some of the biggest changes we’ve seen on the execution and memory management side of the GPU… [the changes] dwarf any other silicon iteration during my tenure, and certainly can compete with the likes of the gen3->gen4 changes.” Just for reference, Gen 3 => Gen 4 was GMA GPU from 3000 to X3000. I welcome this GPU improvement greatly as CPU performance is great. It is GPU that is lacking and a combination of the two which is the future. Seeing as Intels iGPU is already more efficient that AMDs, but not given as much die space, this should make that difference up. I really care more about this because Intel's Atom platform is sharing the iGPU now days and so this will make it competitive on GPU side compared to the Mali and Adreno and Nvidia's upcoming Logan. It should also make GPU on mobile irrelevant unless you go into the GTX range, where as right now Haswell made only the low end and mid range GT lines irrelevant.

here the link guys http://www.extremetech.com/computing/170291-intels-14nm-broadwell-gpu-takes-shape-indicates-major-improvements-over-haswell
   
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Tsk tsk tsk, They've really been slacking on their CPUs lately.
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Fix your quotes tongue.gif

Originally, ticks were not supposed to get any architecture improvements, they were just die shrinks. I think people got spoiled with thinking there's supposed to be architectural upgrades every tick and tock.
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Tsk tsk tsk, They've really been slacking on their CPUs lately.

Cpu's are already monstrously overpowered for what the overwhelming majority of people need them for. The average consumer can't tell the different between an i3 and an i7 any more. To put it blunt, nobody cares. These days technology is all about getting more into smaller packages. Phones, tablets, ultrabooks / super thin notebooks, AIO pc's, etc. Right now, that means getting more gpu power into smaller devices not so much cpu power. I think it's a great move and will help intel more than any cpu power upgrade could right now.
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Formatting, fixed.
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Cpu's are already monstrously overpowered for what the overwhelming majority of people need them for.

I'd like to see games scale with more powerful parts, and also encode a bunch of stuff.

Depending on the game and how much it loads CPU, live encoding @1080p60 with an efficient encoder like x264 is either very difficult, or impossible (stuff like bf4/crysis that loads cpu heavily)

h265 encoding will be much harder.

This isn't professional use, not even enthusiast - just gaming, i'm in more than a couple of communities where it's a widespread and mainstream activity. GPU's didn't have to advance past ~640x480@30fps with quake live level graphics either, we didn't settle for halting advancement then so why are we now?

Not that i'm saying broadwell should be an amazing step up, but the argument of cpu's being monstrously overpowered always confused me. Wasn't 512MB of RAM completely overkill only recently? Nobody would go without 8-16x more these days..
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Would be crazy if the iGPU was able to surpass my 5870!

If only they could put with their i3 & i5 something else than lower-end integrated graphic.
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I think I know what chip to look for in my next laptop. I always felt the CPU side on my AMD APU lappy was a bit weak, with this I get Intel CPU performance with a very decent GPU.
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With laptops preparing their big jump to higher resolution screens, better iGPUs will make a huge difference. My 2013 Macboor Air is still a bit weak whilst playing Diablo for instance, but it is certainly playable.
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CPU's overpowered? yea, that's why 25000K@4.8 hits like 100% usage at some points on Crysis 3.
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