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Good Morning OCN (or whatever time of day it is for you) , wave2.gif

I hoping to put together a new computer this early this next year. I'm not sure if I am beginning my research to early. My current computer was my first, I was so excited wheee.gif that I did not do enough research and have had many regrets about it. frown.gif

I have been regretful about the processor, motherboard, psu , and graphics card. The processor I believe is obvious why doh.gif, the motherboard it not great for overclocking, mellowsmiley.gif the psu I replaced because it could not deliver power for 2 graphics cards and more recently I was sad that the Gigabyte 6870 I have is voltage locked and really unable to overclock. sad-smiley-002.gif

Anyway sorry for all smilies. . . there may be more.
For my new build: I want to game, I would like to go to a multi-monitor set up, 3 x 1080 monitors or maybe even high resolution. and high - ultra graphics.

I'm looking for advice on parts, what to look for what to avoid, what company seems to excel in a specific area.

i.e. I remember that at one point Samsung sold these low power ram sets that overclocked like crazy. (sadly as far as i know these have been discontinued)

From my personal opinion I will most likely use an AMD processor and overclock. the small % improvement in gaming that Intel gives does not justify the large difference in total cost of mobo/cpu, again IMO.

INTEL: gunner2.gifspam1.gifgunner.gif:AMD

again sorry I like to express my ideas and emotions with smilies tonguesmiley.gif

some specific questions come to mind
for the over clocking of a cpu I should look for what in the motherboard? 6+2 or 8+2 phase and heatsinks?
how about safety in power supplies? I feel like I know the least about PSUs
What ram seems to overclock well? and what frequencies can I expect from overclocking the ram? is there a frequency point that we stop seeing performance improvements?

I will keep looking around online and keeping an eye on benchmarks and reviews and try to figure some of these things for myself. I was just hoping that If anyone had some good or bad experiences they could help me as well.


Thank you all and sorry for the long post
     
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So AM3 is dead and right now I'm not terribly excited about the FM2 choices. Kaveri is coming out January of '14 and I'm going to wait for that. The release of this new processor might open the doors to a slew of better, more overclockable motherboards. So, honest oppinion, so you dont end up with a bucket full of regrets again, wait on kaveri.

My favorite brands (in order):
Motherboard: MSI, Gigabyte, Asus
Video Card: EVGA, MSI, Asus
Memory: G.Skill, Corsair, Kingston
PSU: Seasonic, Antec
SSD: Samsung, Intel
Hard Drive: Seagate, Western Digital
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Originally Posted by wizardonthejob View Post

So AM3 is dead and right now I'm not terribly excited about the FM2 choices. Kaveri is coming out January of '14 and I'm going to wait for that. The release of this new processor might open the doors to a slew of better, more overclockable motherboards. So, honest oppinion, so you dont end up with a bucket full of regrets again, wait on kaveri.

My favorite brands (in order):
Motherboard: MSI, Gigabyte, Asus
Video Card: EVGA, MSI, Asus
Memory: G.Skill, Corsair, Kingston
PSU: Seasonic, Antec
SSD: Samsung, Intel
Hard Drive: Seagate, Western Digital

Thank you for saying something has me researching what AMD is planning for the future . . .I had no idea that AM3/+ was being phased out . . . I need to keep up with technology better.
     
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Thank you for saying something has me researching what AMD is planning for the future . . .I had no idea that AM3/+ was being phased out . . . I need to keep up with technology better.

I will add that the 8320/50 CPU's are still very nice and if you dont wait to wait, these would be viable CPU's even into the next couple of years.
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Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Samsung 840 PRO 128Gb SSD Intel 160 Gb SSD Intel 250 Gb SSD Generic DVD-RW 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2 x Noctua (NF-P12-1300 )1300rpm Premium Silent... 2 x Corsair Air Series SP120   COUGAR CF-V12H Vortex Hydro-Dynamic-Bearing  Monsoon 90° Rotary Angle Fitting - 5/8" - Red 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Bitspower Dual / Single D5 Top Upgrade Kit 100 ... ModMyToys DreamFlex Premium 3/8" ID Tubing Reta... Coolance Liquid Coolant Bottle, 700mL Fluoresce... Coolance PMP 450 Variable Speed D5 Pump 
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Bitspower D5 Mod Top V2 Pom version Alphacool NexXxos UT60 Full Copper Radiator 240 Noctua NF-A6X25 FLX Quiet Computer Cooling Fan ... NZXT Sentry Mesh Fan Controller w/ Five 30 watt... 
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FX-4300 Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 EVGA Geforce GTX 260 G.Skill Ripjaws X 
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Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit Toshiba Regza 52" 1080p Logitech K400 Antec EarthWatts Green EA-380D 
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I was planning on waiting until the end of the first quarter 2014 to see what's out / coming out and probably actually build during the 2nd quarter. I'm very glad I posted this early or I would not have started looking into AMD/Intel roadmaps
     
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Probably Broadwell from intel i7 with 4 core and 8 threads,8mb cache L3, but it will use a z97 plus 1150 socket mobo, from amd will use an AM4-AM3+ Processors which will be slower than Intel if they keeo using FSBs... AMD excavator in 2015 will use AM4 plus DDR4 memories
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