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NEED HELP (Major Problems) !!!!! MSI P67A-GD55

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Note: Please do note that the thread will have big wall of text here, its about my PC and I'm trying to fix it, while i will try to keep it short and understandable please do read it anyway.

Now I don't usually put names in threads like this or wanting a attention to minor problems, this is a serious one and i need all of your guys help.

The thread will be split into First and Second Time the problem has occurred so it will be easier for you guys to understand.

First Time Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Okay before a month ago my computer was running fine and i played games constantly checked for viruses (nothing detected) and the PC was in perfect shape.

Then after a few days it for an unknown reason started to BOOT UP everytime i turn it off, this wasnt a problem, only a minor annoyance.
But the thing is, i had to turn it off always through electricity switch, or plug out cables.

Then after reading for a couple of while in the motherboard manual it said that if system has some problems that it's best to update your BIOS for performance improvement.
Then after visiting the official MSI website (for my motherboard), i downloaded the latest BIOS version and followed the instructions CAREFULLY.

So after i plugged in my USB and ran the BIOS update it said it will restart my PC a FEW times and that i should not plug out my USB stick because it will cancel the BIOS update, and if it fails that it may cause system instability.
So after it shutdown, the main problem of this thread began to start.

The PC kept restarting CONSTANTLY, meaning that I know that it should restart a FEW times, so I left it for my PC for a full hour thinking it was all part of the BIOS update.
After an hour the PC still kept restarting, so i thought that the problem causer is that whole "Restarting after a Shutdown" thingy.

Then the next day, I turned on my PC to see will it boot up, then next thing you know it started to boot and it said "Updating BIOS please do not remove the USB stick", yes it was already removed, so i panicked that it would work if the USB is unplugged.
Then i quickly plugged in the USB and guess what, the BIOS update stopped immediately as i plugged it in.
Then i waited a bit thinking that it may continue, but again after a hour it did not work so i shut it down now.

Now the problem was when i turn my PC on it starts the fans (meaning it turned on) and then immediately shutdowns following the same "Reboot when Shutdown" procedure, so it turns out in an endless loop of power on/off, unless i plug out the cables.

So after a while my friend knows a guy who is a PC Expert, and then later i sent the PC to him while also putting a note that said "BIOS Update Failed, Please RESET CMOS and try again".
After a couple of days i asked my friend how does he do it, he said he has some BIOS recovery/repairing tool that fixes it.

So after about a week i got my PC back and guess what, it works flawlessly with no reboot when shutdown, the only thing that i needed to fix was the date and clock, since it was back on the day i installed my PC.
And that is the end of this "First Time" thing.

Second Time Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Now after a couple of days the problem began to appear again, that "Reboot after Shutdown"

But now its worse, because once i started my PC normally, it was going all the way up to Welcome screen with sound on and then suddenly black screen on monitor.

I checked my GPU and guess what, the fans are not working but it was being a little warm on that main board of GPU the one where it has connectors to PCI-E slot.

Now the thing is I know that GPU is working fine because i tested it with other GPU i have, but the thing is it still doesnt show the screen picture but it fans are working, so once again i think that it's the motherboards fault.

But i tried everything, clearing CMOS battery air-dusting the GPU and motherboard changing the PCI-E Slot, but the thing is now the whole "Reboot after Shutdown" thing became worse because, as soon as the cable is plugged in or there is electricity going on, it instantly boots up and then instantly shutdowns following the regular boot, unlike at First time when i could boot it up myself.

So i took it at my friends friend which he currently is trying to fix the whole "Reboot after Shutdown" thing, and he said that there is a electricity problem, and that he is trying to identify the problem.

But at first time i didnt even mention this reboot problem because as soon as he repaired the BIOS the problem was gone.

So should i tell him to do it again ?
I know its alot of text and i wouldnt blame you if you were confused , but please try to help me guys, i have not been planning to buy any other PC component until next year because i will upgrade it whole so if it is avoidable to buy a new motherboard, i would be very grateful to you guys.

Please help me.

Thanks.
post #2 of 9
Thread Starter 
Ok, just got my PC back dont know what to do with it to fix the problem.
If anyone knows some methods please suggest.
post #3 of 9
First things that come to my mind:

Mobo short-circuit: Have you or your friend tried taking everything out of the case and assembling it on something non-conductive like a box or sheet of cardboard?
PSU problem: Have you or your friend tried booting it with a different PSU?
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post #4 of 9
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Ok, it seems its true that the PSU is the problem here, but will i need to buy a new motherboard since i am buying a new PSU ?
post #5 of 9
Your friend has a PC too? Not possible for him to just swap his in for a test?

Anyway, if it functions properly assembled out of the case, then there was maybe something contacting the case, or something not plugged in properly... (You might never really know, but if it does work outside the case, put it back together.)

Of course, there's always testing it with different components disconnected in case one of them is faulty... the old "process of elimination".....

Not quite certain yet that it is mobo..better to be sure before throwing money around.. have you checked out http://www.overclock.net/t/917857/msi-p67a-gd80-gd65-gd55-gd53-owners-club-discussion-info-thread and asked for opinions there?
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post #6 of 9
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Well my friend does not have strong enough PSU for testing but, ill see to find some, thanks.
post #7 of 9
Infinite boot loop ... nearly forgot, that can be RAM too. Try it with less sticks, or different sticks.
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OCZ Vertex 4 SSD Seagate Barracuda 1TB ST31000524AS Lite-On IHAS124 24X DVDRW 3 x XSPC Rasa 750 RX360 Universal CPU Water Coo... 
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post #8 of 9
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Ok, thanks.
post #9 of 9
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Does anyone know if maybe why my GPU fans and keyboard lights are not working ?
Is it because of the PSU or the motherboard ?
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