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while your resentment is perfectly understandable. Every major manufacture delivers poor products constantly. I don't think you can blame it on Zowie's size. I've had defective Razer deathadders and defective Logitech g400s and they're the biggest in the mice industry. Did you try to contact Zowie support? Seems like something you should be able to get replaced or at the very least reimbursed for the majority of.
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while your resentment is perfectly understandable. Every major manufacture delivers poor products constantly. I don't think you can blame it on Zowie's size. I've had defective Razer deathadders and defective Logitech g400s and they're the biggest in the mice industry. Did you try to contact Zowie support? Seems like something you should be able to get replaced or at the very least reimbursed for the majority ]
Too me , zowie 's size should mean that they would and should play closer attention to quality control. I did contact zowie and the company I bought it from. Call me old school but I work hard for money, I like to get what I paid for, nothing more or less. To me I see this company failing on delivering paying customers consistent products. Take this new batch of coollers for example. ... problems with scroll wheel still poping up, new coating peeling left and right , sensor not consistent. Are we to expect or accept this. This is relatively new practice in my life time and I don't just write it off as, "the will fix it". They need to get it right or don't send It out the door.
Anyway this is how they handle it.... I pay to ship it across the world , then it will be 2 to 4 week rma process. Life is short, and i paid for a mouse, that's all I wanted... not a rough relationship. I understand everything you say but years ago things where built better. And if everyone said this is bull**** , fix it before you sell it, they would have no chance but to up their quality. No offense to you but people are pusses now days (sry for rant, ex devildog)
post #52 of 198
Too me , zowie 's size should mean that they would and should pay closer attention to quality control. I did contact zowie and the company I bought it from. Call me old school but I work hard for money, I like to get what I paid for, nothing more or less. To me I see this company failing on delivering paying customers consistent products. Take this new batch of coollers for example. ... problems with scroll wheel still poping up, new coating peeling left and right , sensor not consistent. Are we to expect or accept this. This is relatively new practice in my life time and I don't just write it off as, "the will fix it". They need to get it right or don't send It out the door.Anyway this is how they handle it.... I pay to ship it across the world , then it will be 2 to 4 week rma process. Life is short, and i paid for a mouse, that's all I wanted... not a rough relationship. I understand everything you say but years ago things where built better. And if everyone said this is bull**** , fix it before you sell it, they would have no chance but to up their quality. No offense to you but people are pusses now days (sry for rant, ex devildog)
post #53 of 198
yeah, i get ya, but also, do we really have any concept of exactly how common these problems are? But yeah, i'm probably going to hold off on getting an ec2, to hopefully get a newer batch to hopefully reduce liklihood of peeling coating.
post #54 of 198
I have to agree with Atavax, i'm with you 100%.
But this doesn't happen with just mice, you can see it as well in gaming.
First they launch the games and then (and if they're in a good mood), they'll fix the bugs, not all of them, but some of them.
I remember when i played ps1 for ex., the games were great, no DLC stuff to fix bugs, if the game was good, it was good all the way and we, as costumers and gamers had some hours of fun, alone or with friends\family.
Where i live a new ps3\xbox 360 game cost around 60/70€, and that's not cheap, so when i buy a game i'm expecting to run fully (or almost fully) optimized, no matter if we're talking about graphics, gameplay etc..
Sorry for the offtopic, but i get angry when i see the way products are launched\handled and the lack of professionalism companies show us (and yes we're the ones who they should care about tongue.gif)
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post #55 of 198
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yeah, i get ya, but also, do we really have any concept of exactly how common these problems are? But yeah, i'm probably going to hold off on getting an ec2, to hopefully get a newer batch to hopefully reduce liklihood of peeling coating.

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I have to agree with Atavax, i'm with you 100%.
But this doesn't happen with just mice, you can see it as well in gaming.
First they launch the games and then (and if they're in a good mood), they'll fix the bugs, not all of them, but some of them.
I remember when i played ps1 for ex., the games were great, no DLC stuff to fix bugs, if the game was good, it was good all the way and we, as costumers and gamers had some hours of fun, alone or with friends\family.
Where i live a new ps3\xbox 360 game cost around 60/70€, and that's not cheap, so when i buy a game i'm expecting to run fully (or almost fully) optimized, no matter if we're talking about graphics, gameplay etc..
Sorry for the offtopic, but i get angry when i see the way products are launched\handled and the lack of professionalism companies show us (and yes we're the ones who they should care about tongue.gif)
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Originally Posted by Atavax View Post

yeah, i get ya, but also, do we really have any concept of exactly how common these problems are? But yeah, i'm probably going to hold off on getting an ec2, to hopefully get a newer batch to hopefully reduce liklihood of peeling coating.
I would say that I have a good estimate to the coating peel. Since the product just released and they are a small company, and I have already read a dozen complaints. plus there company told me there is an issue with the first batch.

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I have to agree with Atavax, i'm with you 100%.
But this doesn't happen with just mice, you can see it as well in gaming.
First they launch the games and then (and if they're in a good mood), they'll fix the bugs, not all of them, but some of them.
I remember when i played ps1 for ex., the games were great, no DLC stuff to fix bugs, if the game was good, it was good all the way and we, as costumers and gamers had some hours of fun, alone or with friends\family.
Where i live a new ps3\xbox 360 game cost around 60/70€, and that's not cheap, so when i buy a game i'm expecting to run fully (or almost fully) optimized, no matter if we're talking about graphics, gameplay etc..
Sorry for the offtopic, but i get angry when i see the way products are launched\handled and the lack of professionalism companies show us (and yes we're the ones who they should care about tongue.gif)
You have just explained why I am so mad about this. So far at the end of the year I bought a game called Battlefield 4 (not finished edition) and today I rma a video card and a mouse. Also during this year I have probably rma'd 5 other products. Sick of it. I am also sick of companies not having phone numbers and being so impersonal with emails. So I did some digging and found Zowie's USA phone number and address, and have talked to them. They go by StaiArt lighting (another company they own) their address is 18292 Enterprise Lane Huntington Beach Ca. 92648 and their phone number is (714)-596-8882 . They will answer the phone as staiart and then you ask for Zowie and they say yes can I help you? So iff you have a problem that is how you talk to a real person
Edited by spazkill - 1/13/14 at 10:05am
post #56 of 198
i just got my ec2 evo CL and im pretty amazed.

huanos...that i can use RTS for? I'm blown way away. They are nowhere near as stiff as on my FK but they are just as crisp, its great.
the scroll wheel is really nice except that i still think i like the tighter scrollwheel on the FK. still great tho, all rubber is the way to go imo.
love the color scheme
coating is amazing
good stuff here by zowie
post #57 of 198
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Originally Posted by discoprince View Post

i just got my ec2 evo CL and im pretty amazed.

huanos...that i can use RTS for? I'm blown way away. They are nowhere near as stiff as on my FK but they are just as crisp, its great.
the scroll wheel is really nice except that i still think i like the tighter scrollwheel on the FK. still great tho, all rubber is the way to go imo.
love the color scheme
coating is amazing
good stuff here by zowie
I like everthing bout mine too. Except the individual problem that I had, but now it's rma'd. But the coating on the first batch will wear within a month, that fact came directly from zowie's mouth. They have a known issue with the first batches coating.
post #58 of 198
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I like everthing bout mine too. Except the individual problem that I had, but now it's rma'd. But the coating on the first batch will wear within a month, that fact came directly from zowie's mouth. They have a known issue with the first batches coating.

the top coating or side coating?
post #59 of 198
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the top coating or side coating?
The top is all that I have heard or seen so far.... but it hasn't been out long.
post #60 of 198
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Originally Posted by discoprince View Post

the top coating or side coating?
Actually I was contacted by the person who I contacted at zowie because he read this thread and he said that he didn't say everyone would have this problem in the first batch ( he said I was putting words in his mouth) . So i copied and pasted exactly what he said in our emailed conversation. " As I was saying, the coating issue is one we are aware of and one we will befixing on a next batch of the product - and, of course, any customers thathave experienced this issue will be able to return it." So there you go.
Edited by spazkill - 1/13/14 at 5:26pm
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