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teamgroup 3.3.3.8 667 -vs- 4.4.4.10 800

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For my Christmas build I ordered and paid for the following set: 2 Gb Kit DDR2 (2x 1Gb) 4-4-4-10 800Mhz, but received this one: 2 Gb Kit DDR2 (2 x 1Gb) 3-3-3-8 667 Mhz.

I emailed the sales guys at tankguys.biz, and they were very fast to respond and very helpful, offering a refund for the price difference or a mail-in exchange.

This is what he told me (emphasis added):

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In fact, I’d imagine we accidentally sent you the 667Mhz 3-3-3-8 instead 4-4-4-10 800Mhz. They are exactly the same chips, but binned differently.

In truth, if you keep the memory, I owe you a refund, as I think that memory is ~$10 cheaper. So it’s up to you if you’d like to keep that with a refund, or if you’d like me to send you the ‘correct’ kit.
So I'm wondering here, is there any difference? Below is a cpuz picture showing the Serial Presence Detect, and it makes clear that the max bandwidth is 333MHz.

If they are the same chip, wouldn't this be significant limitation, considering it would be 400 with the DDR2-800 set? (I'm still VERY virginal to memory tweaking/overclocking).



I'm considering sending them back, and paying the tankguys the difference for a better kit. Can I get some info and advice?

Thanks
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I would like to know also the difference
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Both use Micron D9 chips, probably D9GMH, which means they would overclock exactly the same. It's still great RAM, and I would just save myself the shipping charges and keep the 667.
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How come CPU-Z says at DDR2-667 they are CL 5-5-5-15, when you said they are CL 3-3-3-8?
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Both use Micron D9 chips, probably D9GMH, which means they would overclock exactly the same. It's still great RAM, and I would just save myself the shipping charges and keep the 667.

Yes, both are Micron D9GMH chips.

It's debatable how different this kits really are. I'm not sure if Team just takes a certain lot, splits it 50/50, and bins some for 3-3-3-8/667 and some for 4-4-4-10/800. Or, they may test each set of chips, to find ones that play 'best' at those given speeds - I really don't know.

In any case, both kits tend to perform the same, hence the very similar price point (in fact, they were the same price for a while). Both kits have roughly the same top bandwidth, and same minimum timings. We also sell roughly the same number of each kit.

So it's a toss up really
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How come CPU-Z says at DDR2-667 they are CL 5-5-5-15, when you said they are CL 3-3-3-8?
When I say? The box they came in and sticker they're labled with says that... and now I have the tankguys rep to back it up

Thanks for the clarification. I'm still mulling the idea of returning these and paying the difference for a better kit, if you guys would agree to that.
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Thanks for the clarification. I'm still mulling the idea of returning these and paying the difference for a better kit, if you guys would agree to that.
Of course, it's totally your decision. Just let us know either way
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post #8 of 8
The difference is negligible:
http://www.hwupgrade.com/articles/mo...parison_5.html

The $10 extra kit may get an extra 10 MHz.
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