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And when you buy AMD APU garbage, even with a dGPU, you get what you pay for. Cheap garbage. So I applaud Digital Storm's approach to this.

If someone doesn't like it....don't buy it.....go to the ibuypower AMD garbage thread if you want something cheap IMO.

What a garbage post.
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post #122 of 129
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What a garbage post.
It is in line with most of his last posts. So much hatred for anything AMD. These APUs are outstanding and a good look into the future direction of low cost, low power computing with high yields. The steam boxes seem rather out of element. The direct competition is with the consoles yet it is priced with a great deal of these in the high priced Computers. I agree with a lot of posters that mITX /small form factor builds are what a Steam box should be and there is nothing that fits that better than an AMD APU.
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I can play Metro 2033 Last light @ 1080p (which is still a high resolution) low settings on an A10-5800k using the 30% slower than Windows Linux driver around 25fps. Boost the Driver to windows performance then that become 30fps easily, include mantle then thats medium settings ..

80$ for a combined quad core CPU and Decent integrated GPU playing one of the most graphically impressive games to date

Richland is 10% faster, Kaveri is supposed to be 20% faster still or more..

Do the math, for the money there going to start moving into 'good enough for most people territory'

They are not Garbage at all.

(ohh and the whole system idles at 34w and is silent and compact)
post #124 of 129
I think the only reason there are no AMD Steam Boxes is simply because of the Linux drivers. If AMD get on top of those, and talk to Valve, there'll be certified SB's coming soon. Betcha... and they'll start to walk all over these NVidia monstrosities (I mean, come on, $1.5k for a console is insane.)
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They could do a Kaveri crossfire with an ITX style case for sub $400 if they tried

it would serve the majority of casuals and lower spec twitch games for a long time
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We are testing Kaveri to see how well it performs and will definitely look into making a less costly alternative.
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I think the only reason there are no AMD Steam Boxes is simply because of the Linux drivers. If AMD get on top of those, and talk to Valve, there'll be certified SB's coming soon. Betcha... and they'll start to walk all over these NVidia monstrosities (I mean, come on, $1.5k for a console is insane.)

It'll happen, nVidia released a better Linux driver specifically because of Steam I believe.

Although honestly, AMDs Linux drivers aren't that bad, they're just not as good as nVidia's. I'd happily use an AMD APU Steambox.
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We are testing Kaveri to see how well it performs and will definitely look into making a less costly alternative.

Couldn't happen to "accidentally" leak some numbers, could ya? wink.gif Kidding.
    
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I'm not impressed with the direction that OEMs are taking the Steambox/SteamOS idea. Gabe wanted something that was open source that could compete with consoles in the living room giving the opportunity for developers to see that PC is just as good of a platform for the masses. With the added ability to customize internally what YOUR SteamBox had down the road. A 1500 dollar price tag is no where near competing for the attention of joe schmoe who wants moderate entertainment in front of the boob tube. SteamBox/SteamOS is looking a lot for the elites and will keep gaming developers on consoles because there won't be the money there for the select few who have a SteamBox.

Think outside the box for those that aren't "overclock.net". I'm an average dude who wants to buy something premade to enjoy a night or day on the couch. I'm not going to drop that kind of cash unless there are diamonds or gold inside. I highly hope that the controller they are developing becomes a BIG hit as that is about all they have going for them at the moment =\.
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post #129 of 129
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On the contrary. I consider this a great machine for 1500$. If you don't like it, don't buy it! wink.gif If I got super lazy and didn't feel like building my own, i'd consider it. It looks pretty impressive to me IMO.

Certainly better for gaming than those cheap APU based machines. Cheap and PC gaming don't go together - if you want a good experience, it costs a bit more money. And like I said. It is not the intent of the steambox to become the next PS4. Steambox CANT do that because at 400$, a 400$ gaming PC will likely be a piece of junk. So I applaud digital storm in resisting the urge to make a 400$ APU based piece of junk machine. wink.gif

Their entry level SteamBox will be about $1,450... compare this to what the specs are for the hardware they pack into their entry level $1,439 Bolt tower:

- Intel Core i5 3350P CPU
- 8GB 1600MHz Memory
- NVIDIA GTX 760 2GB
- 1TB 7200RPM Storage HDD
- ASUS Z77 Motherboard
- 500W Digital Storm PSU
- DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW
- Microsoft Windows 8.1

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/bolt.asp

That's about the ballpark of hardware you can expect to be paying for...

If you have access to the tools and the metal working know how to build your own sff slim case, this is an example of how you spend just shy of $1,200 with shipping and taxes and still have a nice budget for building a custom case....

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2xH4U
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2xH4U/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2xH4U/benchmarks/

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CPU Cooler: Thermaltake Water 3.0 Extreme 99.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87E-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($76.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card ($439.99 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: Swiftech HELIX120BW 55.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($11.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Swiftech HELIX120BW 55.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($11.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Swiftech HELIX120BW 55.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($11.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Swiftech HELIX120BW 55.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($11.99 @ Amazon)
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Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
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