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Disgusting. I want a 14nm good cpu. Not an overpriced refresh of old technology.

I guess whoever got a cpu last year is fine. Whoever gets one from now will be a moron cause in 6 months there will be 14nm. But going 2015 for that is miserably slow. I hope we could collectively boycott their 22nm products for the rest of 2014 so that they are forced to use 14nm fabs they ALREADY have.

But that's what you get in a duopoly or rather a practical monopoly. AMD was always chasing behind intel. And they always held x86/x86-64 patents restricted between them. Sometimes I think AMD is Intel's excuse to not be attacked by antitrust laws. And of course, national politics may be involved, e.g. Obama supporting Apple against Samsung with not technological or legal standing to do it.
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Whoever gets one from now will be a moron cause in 6 months there will be 14nm.

There's always something new around the tech corner, if you think like this anyone who buys anyone falls into the "moron" category. And will still be running an Apple II.
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It's not so much that the 2600K was 'insanely good', but rather that everything since has been pathetic.

Haswell is superior to Sandy bridge in every aspect.

5ghz 2600K is only a 4.4ghz Haswell
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Haswell is superior to Sandy bridge in every aspect.

5ghz 2600K is only a 4.4ghz Haswell

you would hope so considering its 3 years newer technology. its not more superior at overclocking, so that statement is false wink.gif
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you would hope so considering its 3 years newer technology. its not more superior at overclocking, so that statement is false wink.gif

You do understand that IPC adds heat right?
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You do understand that IPC adds heat right?

What?
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There's always something new around the tech corner, if you think like this anyone who buys anyone falls into the "moron" category. And will still be running an Apple II.

Not really I'm afraid. There are certain points in history of technology that a large gap happens.

For example, if you get a CPU right before Sandy Bridge release, big mistake, very big mistake.

We are not sure this will be a jump, but the possibility is good. We are being force fed refreshes of the refreshes of 2-3 year old technology right now. Both on GPUs and CPUs. The possibility of something good up to the end of 2014 is very good.

There is still a problem with the monopolies and duopolies in this market (do we really believe AMD and NV are going as fast as they can? AMD sucks over Intel. TSMC lags behind Intel) but there is still momentum. Mainly by people, us, being bored of being served old food that does nothing impressive. And the Economy is not good still. And the technology mainly is harder to shrink transistors. But there is momentum still.

The alternative is the ultimate death of the performance computing market in a matter of 6 months to 2 years.
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Not really I'm afraid. There are certain points in history of technology that a large gap happens.

Well, yes. I didn't mean to imply there weren't - we're about to hit a major, huge one where multiple different components are all hitting a big jump at the same time. Intel chips, DDR4, Maxwell, and G-Sync are all arriving in the near future, and it's why I'm not upgrading my four-and-a-half year old rig until they do. I'd be ready to pull the trigger today if not for the things just around the corner.

But I still don't think it's necessary to ridicule people who buy things at inopportune times, or especially to complain that a year later there's going to be something that "ruins" your purchase. A 780 is still a damn fine piece of technology, no matter what the 880 looks like. Same with CPUs. I've seen a lot of "Waiting for Skylake!" posts, and while I'd love to, that's just too far away and I'm going to end up with some form of Haswell in all likelihood.

But just because something is coming, that can't mean that you never bite the bullet and buy something.
post #129 of 158
I said if they don't have an imminent need. Or they swim in oil money I guess.

Oh yeah G-SYNC. I want that too. I worry that it's mainly an ASUS thing and not taken off.

Mainly because most people have no idea what it does.

I still see kids having no idea of the immense difference of image clarity in vsync on 60hz. Ridiculous.
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Oh yeah G-SYNC. I want that too. I worry that it's mainly an ASUS thing and not taken off.

It's not just an ASUS thing. Yes, ASUS is first, but that's largely because Nvidia is having to hand-tune the G-Sync modules for every panel the display OEMs want to use, according to a rep from Overlord who was discussing where their displays sat in the queue. It'll be a while, but others will come to it.
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