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post #41 of 47
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All right guys. Sorry for not so many posts lately. This past month has been hectic at work. I barely had time to do any work on my project. Anyways...enough excuses. I managed to fully build it, but there's still work to do. Hope you guys enjoy the setup build! smile.gif

Final setup. I still have to work on the fill port and drain port. Luckily those are quick attachments to my front radiator and fill port hose. It took me a while to get the hoses to naturally curve smoothly, but finally got the setup right. thumb.gif

  • I had to do the upper left portion of the loop like 4 different times. At first this wasn't the original way I wanted to run the loop (was trying to avoid using angled fittings). I finally caved in and got 3 90 degree turns and readjusted as such.
  • The main reason I used the extra 120 rad was to keep the runs short. This is definitely as short as I could get them. Later on I might consider getting back in and switching them out to rigid tubing. Would take me a while as it would be my first time going rigid.
  • The cables were a pain mainly to time restrictions (had about 2-3 hours every time I got a chance to work). I promised to use para-cord, but 2 things changed my mind: 1) I had purchased a dark gray, but it ended up having a greenish tint to it and ruined the color scheme. 2) After much thinking, the para-cord sleeving was thicker than the mdpc-x material, so it would barely fit through the cable holes to the PDU. I still ended up using 3 of the para-cord cables mainly because I didn't want to run the risk of burning the actual cable while removing.
  • Only thing that I'm debating is the fans. I might switch the top fans to intake and the rear fan to exhaust. Main reason I haven't is the front push/pull is is intake, the 2 bottom are intakes, and currently the rear is intake also. What do you guys think?

Overall, I think it was a great choice to switch and use the dual color scheme on the main cables. thumbsupsmiley.png

I really can't wait to get this baby running. For now I can start doing a leak test since the fill and drain ports won't affect the main line. The drain port is going to be attached to the bottom of the front radiator. I am also waiting on another Swiftech 8-Way PWM Cable Splitter - SATA Power (8W-PWM-SPL-ST).

The way I am controlling my fans is through the motherboard pins. Only downside to this method is you can't adjust them individually. Luckily I plan on running them at 1200 or less so it isn't a big down side for me. tongue.gif

I will keep you guys posted more often. Sorry I didn't get any step by step shots of this final process. I will get them for the rest of the process. If you have any questions feel free to post them. Also, let me know what you guys think about the fan dilema. wink.gif
Edited by Shadovex - 2/14/14 at 5:06pm
post #42 of 47
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So the leak test is finally complete. I initially had 2 "huge" problems getting the leak test underway:

1) The top and bottom reservoir caps had a bad seal. I thought at first there was a micro crack in the reservoir but then decided to take it apart and put it together again. While doing that, I realized the rubber grommets were pinned in too far in their spot so they couldn't make a seal. Easily fixed by taking them out and putting them back in.

2) Since the front rad is placed with the intake/exhaust ports on the bottom, it was creating a big air blockage that kept the initial water flow from moving past that point. At first I thought I had a bad pump (didn't test it outside the case), but after a bit I took off the tube going in to the GPUs and literally sucked the air out, giving the pump the help needed to get past that air block.

Once those 2 problems were fixed everything was moving along pretty well, until it was time to fully fill the reservoir. After taking the reservoir apart to figure out what was going on with the leak and reinstalled it, i didn't look to see where the fill port line and the intake from the CPU was landing. The aqua-pipe that goes inside the reservoir ended up landing on the fill port instead of the intake port.

This caused a small spill mess for me as I had to drain some of the loop in order to take out the top cap of the reservoir and switch the location of the aqua-pipe. I could have easily just switched the tubing ports but to me it wouldn't have looked right. I wanted the fill port to be in the background of the system instead of crisscrossing the tubing.

Once I get the fill/drain port parts all I will have to do is turn the system upside down to get some of the water out to install the parts, refill, and just get the air bubbles out that may have been created while tilting/draining.

The journey is almost done, then all I have to do is get the peripherals, overclock the system, and enjoy gaming and editing with minimum lag!! redface.gif

*Maybe work on the next system. biggrin.gif
Edited by Shadovex - 2/16/14 at 9:56pm
post #43 of 47
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So after finally receiving the last of the hardware needed , I have finally set everything up. I had to drain just about the whole loop so it's going to sit for a while until I get all the air bubbles out. Anyways here she is fully built.

  • Last main piece. The Xonar Phoebus Sound Card. I'm looking forward to experience this "sonar" tech that they implemented to this card. thumb.gif

    Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

  • I had to remove every little bit of the computer to mod the case a little. I had to remove a small square from the top left of the 5.25 bay cage. I was dreading it somewhat, but it gave me a chance to tidy up the system. doh.gif

    Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

  • Here she is fully rebuilt and starting the air removal process to the loop. smile.gif

    Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

It has been a fun experience building another system from scratch. I will definitely be building all my future computers from scratch like this. Hopefully I'll be back in the states when I do the next one because my current mailing system delayed this project by a lot. madsmiley.png

Once the loop has been removed of the air bubbles, I'll fire her up and see how much of an overclock I can get and get a couple benchmark numbers to share. Catch you guys later. devil.gif
post #44 of 47
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Just thought I'd give a basic update. The computer is running fine. I'm still going through the update process and personalizing it. It would go a lot smoother if I were more familiar with W8.1 Pro. I will pick it up pretty shortly then I'll get into the fun part of playing the numbers game via overclocking. I'll keep in touch as I progress through this obstacle.
post #45 of 47
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Aside from the typical setbacks of putting things together and fully disassembling while putting the build together, I thought I would put this setback log of the things that have slowed me down while accomplishing optimal settings with this build. I hope these setbacks are found to be educational while you are building your own personal rig, whether it's a replica build or a one of a kind build.

  • 3/3/2014: While messing around Fan Xpert 2 to obtain profiles and getting some sound checks of the fans, I realized that some of my fans were not working correctly. I didn't see any research on this before, but I made a solid conclusion about my statement: Corsair SP 120 Quiet Edition fans do not work not only on my CPU header of my MB but also when attached via splitter with Swiftech PWM 8 way fan splitter. It took me a while to figure this out mainly because the fan splitter only sends PWM signals of that first fan splitter and then adjusts the others the same way. My guess is since the initial Amp level is so low for these fans, they are considered bad on CPU, CPU_OPT, and with the fan splitter.

    Luckily Maximus VI Extreme boards come with 4 (CPU_FAN, CHA_FAN1, CHA_FAN2, CHA_FAN3) PWM headers and one (CPU_OPT) header that mimics its main PWM. I filled CHA_FAN1, CHA_FAN2, and CHA_FAN3 headers with SP 120 Quiet Edition and on CPU_FAN, I placed one of the Swiftech PWM 8 way fan splitters on with 4 SP 120 High Performance Edition. I was stuck placing 2 more Quiet Edition on the splitter relay which are stuck permanently on 375-400 RPM until I receive 2 more High Performance Edition (which are en route). Now what to do with an extra splitter and 3 Quiet Edition fans. headscratch.gif I guess I can place the fans on old builds and keep the splitter in case.
post #46 of 47
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After the long tedious wait for replacement fans to fit my cooling profiles, I am finally able to start playing the "math game" of overclocking. Due to my time limitations it might take a bit. I did however manage to find what frequency I can get started with, without crossing 1.2v core voltage. I will say that this chip isn't a lottery winner, but I can only be pleased with the outcome as it is able to overclock. So far I am at 4.3GHz @ 1.2v. Odds are I might top out at 4.5GHz (hopefully), but we will see where this chip will take me. Stay tuned as I bring more updates. thumb.gif

  • 3/26/2014: So I've found my max 1.275v stable frequency of 4.4GHz. 4.5GHZ allowed me to post and log in to OS, but crashed as soon as it started all my auto start tasks. I might find out how much more it will take to get 4.5GHz and see if that voltage/temp increase is worth it for a long term overclock. If it's too much, I'll see how low I can get the 4.4GHz voltage. I know, I know....I'm not doing it by the book and accounting for every ounce of voltage and frequency increase, but the way overclocking is now a days makes it so easy to skip a lot of steps. tongue.gif
  • 3/28/2014: I updated my BIOS today and decided to start over so I can see where the huge jumps in voltage and temps are. After the update, I can get 4.3GHz @1.2v (just like before...could be lower, but based on previous check I knew 4.4+ would be over 1.2v. It took me a lot of voltage changes to find out the low for 4.4GHz. For 4.4 GHz, my core voltage is 1.234375 (went as low as the jumps would let me). Max voltage through Burn Test was 63C. I'll try to find the 4.5GHz voltage/temp and see how much voltage I have to play with to increase RAM and uncore. I'll probably just leave it at 4.4GHz and then increase the RAM and uncore, especially since it looks like 4.5GHz will be over 1.275v.
  • 3/29/2014: Even after passing Intel Burn Test, 4 hours of Prime95 and got a Cinebench benchmark, I still had to readjust voltage to accommodate rendering through Movie Studio Platinum 13 and play certain games (crashed twice while playing Wildstar beta). Temps are still looking good. I will make sure that it is stable after all these changes and then try to find the 4.5GHz sweet spot. RAM right now is at 1666MHz. If I do get 4.5GHz, I don't think I will have room to adjust RAM and finally Uncore. We'll see how temperatures are soon.
  • 3/29/2014: Turns out 4.5GHz was less painful than I thought. Managed to get it with just 1.312500v. Gives me a little hope of seeing 4.6GHz, although I might have to mess around with the input voltage at the same time as the core voltage to find stability. The temps for 4.5GHz were looking at high 60s under load and low 40s at idle, which gives me some room to look for 4.6GHz. I did, however, have to add a tiny bit more of flow on the water pump. I'll be monitoring to see if the added power to the pump will reduce my efficiency in cooling due to the pump's added heat.

Edited by Shadovex - 3/30/14 at 4:55am
post #47 of 47
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It took a bit of figuring out, but I managed to get a 4.6GHz overclock on this project. I'm glad that I was able to reach that goal before settling for less. I will not be pushing it any higher as the voltage level is high enough for my comfort. The hard part for me was figuring out what manual/auto settings I needed to adjust with this MB. ROG boards/BIOS really have a lot of settings which are too microscopic to tell if it made a difference or not. Anyways...here are the stats which I changed in the UEFI to get my clock settings:

PLL Selection: LC PLL
BCLK: 100
Multiplier: 46
Cache Min/Max Multiplier: 44
Internal PLL Overvoltage: Enabled
XTREME Tweak: Enabled
CPU VID: 1.392v
VCore: 1.387500v
Uncore VID: 1.296v
Uncore Voltage: 1.281250v
Eventual CPU In: 1.9v
DRAM: 1.65v
DRAM Frequency: 2200 MHZ

Hope all has been informative for the viewers. I'll be working on the GPU overclocks soon. Right now it's not worth it though since I am using a 1080 HDMI screen with a secondary monitor. Once I get my 1440p's, I'll push for those GPU overclocks. Looking forward to seeing this project to optimization levels. I might mess around to see if there is anything else that can be adjusted to increase any of the overclocks or even lower voltages used. We'll see how work will be this week so that maybe I can get solid answers. rolleyes.gif
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